What artist are you planning to study for the exam?

[xdecay]

i agree! i know a few media friends whose photos turn out shit because they spent so much time thinking about it, when their 'normal' leisure/hobby photos are amazing. a lot of them are seriously contrived with gross concepts (like a blooming flower stuck in the middle of train tracks.. cliched much?). anywho.

have faith in yourself! i remember a couple of folios weren't on display but they had really good final artworks. so maybe even if your folio isn't prestigious enough because it's more concised you will get in because your finals are great? (i don't know if the last sentence made sense, i gave up on grammar after my esl exam)

[Cinnah]

HAHAA! A friend of mine just did a rose, and photo shopped it... wait for it. THE BACKGROUND WAS BLACK AND WHITE, THE ROSE WAS RED. Original hey? ...it was nice, but seriously.

And yeah... my finals. The more I think about them, the more I see the flaws. I dunno...

You speak better english than people I know who have been speaking english their WHOLE LIFE, which is why I kept forgetting you did esl

[whitesebastian]

Jan Vermeer and Julian Opie!
... wait we still talking about artists? haha
wow 10 folios? what a hectikk - I only did one, and it wasn't even a full A3 book! but the mid-year reviewers liked it, so I guess that's ok.

[whitesebastian]

got the old "if you don't get a call by the first of december THAT'S IT" slip too haha, apprehension nation

[Cinnah]

I'm only focusing on fuseli - is this bad?

Also guys, I keep freaking out about all the other kinds of questions.
I can analyse things right but I don't know what they want from me!

[xdecay]

FIRST OF ALL. i'd like to congratulate whitesebastian for getting a 50 for german. WELL DONNEEE.

anyway. are we MEANT to do 2 artists?! i thought my teacher told us to do that because one was a safety just-in-case stuff, so i only focused on frida kahlo! i don't even have a second artist to choose from.

why are we doing two anyway? as in, vcaa is going to ask a question about contrasting two artists? BUT HOW?

sorry. i'm freaking out so much. and it's not even my last exam.

[xdecay]

I can analyse things right but I don't know what they want from me!

don't worry, i understand completely. also, especially when they ask about curatorship etc. i know what's going on but i get so freaked out.

[Cinnah]

My teacher was like, you need to be able to contrast two artists so know two from different eras
and THEN the practise exam was just one artist, but you had to explain historical/social context and one painting and how it related to those things.

Studio really needs to pick up it's game. The course is sloppy and open ended.

[xdecay]

My teacher was like, you need to be able to contrast two artists so know two from different eras
and THEN the practise exam was just one artist, but you had to explain historical/social context and one painting and how it related to those things.

Studio really needs to pick up it's game. The course is sloppy and open ended.

okay i just talked to someone (who's an elite student in studio arts, so she's quite valid hehe) and i was told to study someone from the SAME time but affected by different cultures/historical context. confusion.

and anyway, vcaa hasn't had a question about contrasting two artists yet. so i'm guessing.. they won't have it this year?

[Cinnah]

What did she say? I'm pretty much the highest ranked at my school... our art department is shit.
I was told two different artists, and having different movements automatically makes contrast, so to do that.

...And maybe it actually means it WILL be this year? :/ I'll prepare for it just incase. It's a new study design, so I actually don't know any more. LIFE IS SO CONFUSING.

[xdecay]

though, don't you think comparing someone with another from a different era would be like comparing an apple to an orange? sorry for the cliche. i mean, i would have no idea to approach it if i were to say, talk about frida kahlo as well as botticelli. i know this is a far fetched example. but still. like, frida was influenced through her hybrid ethnicity hence pushing her to express her support for mexico from the revolution, turning against the us etc. and botticelli is part of the early renaissance. so.. i would sum it up by 'they're different, because they come from different backgrounds with different settings, hence they produce different meanings by using art as a platform blah blah blah'. whereas if i were to, say, talk about someone like francis bacon who was living at the same time as frida, i could talk about his view on existentialism etc because that was what happened then and he wasn't affected by the war etc because he wasn't part of the context (ooOOooOh context!). so isn't it better/easier to compare because they've experienced different shit throughout their lives? though at the same time.

okay what am i talking about! sorry for bombarding you with all this! haha, i'm just too confused at the moment! argh.

[Cinnah]

What you're saying does make sense BUT for example you were explaining say... sequential artists, such as, dunno, Manet and Van Gough, you could explain what drove Impressionism, and then what Post Impressionism revolted against. Then you could talk about personal stuff and subject matter. Or even Deschamps and Dali, with Dada and Surrealism

Just because, I dunno... say if you were to do two abstract expressionists, let's say Kandinsky and Pollock, several of the points would be similar. Just like if you were to grab Botticelli and Michaelangelo: they're different parts of the renaissance and you wouldn't be able to compare them too much unless you remembered that one was better at anatomy and the other was better at form (or something, I've forgotten)

I think it's because Frida and Bacon are different movements?
From what I know, Frida is "Feminist (Modern)" and  Bacon was like... I THINK expressionist? I can't quite think of what to call his style, but he's also a modern painter too, isn't he?.

To be honest... Let's just do what we're comfortable with. It's possible to do well, as long as we know our stuff

[oscar]

Yes, I went on a studio arts excursion and we got to see the folios of the top art students and I swear not one person had one folio..... 4-5+++++, which was really impressive but at the same time made me feel like crap lol
I don't know, hopefully they can see the goodness in one folio vs 10 folios of another person....

I had 6 folios for the year. Worked my ass off and I've put it in top Arts. Some of my classmates didn't even fill one folio for the year.

[whitesebastian]

hahaha thanks but it's scaled! haha from 43 up - just makes me feel better to see 50

[whitesebastian]

i mean studying two different artists from two completely different contexts obviously makes the comparison easier, I'd say? Like, Vermeer and Opie are 350 years apart and there's a heck of a lot of technical differences there (oil paint v Adobe Illustrator?!), social, cultural, historical differences etc. but then you can find a lot of similarities in their works - especially things like the essence of Julian's simplistic, very 'bare' portraiture, and say the Girl With A Pearl Earring. I think it's quite interesting like that.

I'm mildly freaking out cos it's one of those subjects that I thought I could breeze an exam through, but I'm bloody cramming two days before it, so poor.