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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1830 on: October 17, 2014, 06:16:01 pm »
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So I'm thinking of just dropping the science component of my degree; switching majors will take forever, I probably won't find the one I'm switching too particularly interesting and if I do switch it'll keep me at uni for basically an extra two years. If I'm aiming for med then it'd probably be best (in my opinion) to just switch to single degree biomed. At the moment science as part of my double degree is just causing a lot of problems.

Plus biomed lets me do honours in any area of sci I'm interested in so that's kind of a factor.

Does anyone have any counter-arguments/general advice?
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1831 on: October 19, 2014, 08:53:41 pm »
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Every student on campus now has at least 1 x 24 hour study space now (https://www.facebook.com/msa.clayton/posts/10152791400271684). That's fantastic! I dont know how well it would get used though. Like everything on campus, it seems to benefit those who live the closest the most (and frankly, they are those who need to least) but i guess that cannot be helped. If you're a science student you already have the SSL, engineers have their place too.

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It seems like you've already made your mind up alondoeuk :p

Just make a list of pro's and con's and see how it goes i guess. Just based on what you've told us though, i cant see many upsides at all from keeping the science degree.  I dont really understand why staying in science would force you to switch your majors though? Surely you can just continue with the ones listed in your signature? If you drop down to single biomed you would only get one major then as well.

Unless its really difficult for you to get 2 majors between 2 degrees (i vaguely remember something), in that case, if its major you dont really want, just cut it lose. Then again, remember you're *usually* only at uni for one contiguious block of your life, why not soak it up and enjoy it while you're here? Study things you're interested in? Of course you also gotta leave sometime..

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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1832 on: October 19, 2014, 09:20:09 pm »
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Every student on campus now has at least 1 x 24 hour study space now (https://www.facebook.com/msa.clayton/posts/10152791400271684). That's fantastic! I dont know how well it would get used though. Like everything on campus, it seems to benefit those who live the closest the most (and frankly, they are those who need to least) but i guess that cannot be helped. If you're a science student you already have the SSL, engineers have their place too.

This looks to be a really good system to initiate and build upon imo. Monash's "masterplan" states that they want to eventually develop Clayton into a "24-hour university city" and increased access to facilities such as this is really the first step to achieving that. Mind you, it'd be a whole lot better if the Clayton campus wasn't in, well... Clayton lol.

It seems like you've already made your mind up alondoeuk :p

Just make a list of pro's and con's and see how it goes i guess. Just based on what you've told us though, i cant see many upsides at all from keeping the science degree.  I dont really understand why staying in science would force you to switch your majors though? Surely you can just continue with the ones listed in your signature? If you drop down to single biomed you would only get one major then as well.

Unless its really difficult for you to get 2 majors between 2 degrees (i vaguely remember something), in that case, if its major you dont really want, just cut it lose. Then again, remember you're *usually* only at uni for one contiguious block of your life, why not soak it up and enjoy it while you're here? Study things you're interested in? Of course you also gotta leave sometime..

Haha well. In true panicking student form I've ultimately decided to keep the double degree and push on with the genetics major. Another friend recommended the objective pros/cons table and while I'm still somewhat unsure as to what's best for me, sticking with the double degree this late in my undergrad pathway is for the best - especially if I'm looking to get into medicine at some later stage. As an added bonus, it lets me do a major (alongside the somewhat dreaded genetics major) in anatomy/developmental biology which I adore and is really worth all the difficulty associated with taking the BSc as well. Staying with the double degree also gives me about two extra shots at the GAMSAT and UROP which is nice, while dropping it would only allow me to graduate half a year earlier. Time will tell if I've made the right decision!

The whole issue with majors arose because of a profoundly stupid system in my double degree where students can only take an initial science major from a small list. The reasoning behind this policy is shoddy and circular and I won't get into it too much but it's pretty degrading (in my opinion) to the overall tertiary learning experience. I wanted to major in developmental biology, however it's not on the aforementioned list so in order to do so I would need to fit in a DEV major alongside an "approved" major sequence for the double degree (the only one I was willing to choose when I started my course in 2013 - when the list was even smaller than now - was genetics). As of next year some more majors were introduced to this list (notably none that would really benefit a biomed student), including psychology. I would ideally have liked to have taken a PSY/DEV dual major but I was one unit short of being able to complete the DEV component. PSY on its own wasn't of enough interest to me. As well as this, the faculty was unwilling to cancel credit on a space-filler unit I did in first year to allow me to complete the DEV major, leading to the whole crisis described over the past few pages of this thread.

Everything seems to be a bit more clarified now, even if I'm not exactly sure about the outcome.



On an entirely separate note, one of the Science units I was taking next semester was just cancelled. Anyone have any good, preferably easy Science units (ideally with no exam assessment) that I could take instead?
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1833 on: October 19, 2014, 10:06:45 pm »
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easy Science units (ideally with no exam assessment)

THESE EXIST?! O.o

Also, why do you have to have two majors? I thought your ordinary BSc only asked for one - couldn't you just do a major in dev, and then fill everything else up with fun things (give psych a go, maybe add in some chem to backup your biomed)?

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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1834 on: October 19, 2014, 10:33:37 pm »
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THESE EXIST?! O.o

Also, why do you have to have two majors? I thought your ordinary BSc only asked for one - couldn't you just do a major in dev, and then fill everything else up with fun things (give psych a go, maybe add in some chem to backup your biomed)?

Haha, I did MON2002 this semester which has no exam and was going to do MON2001 (also sans exam) but it's not running next year at this time. MON2002 is great but I don't think it's being held next year either unfortunately.

As for the two majors thingy; one was a major I had to do (genetics), the other was the one I want to do (developmental biology). Unfortunately due to the stupid system I described above I can't do a sole major in DEV. I'd only have done a psych major if I could do a DEV major as well, but the Faculty wasn't willing to budge (they wanted me to pay for an extra-credit unit at full fee and upfront - ~$4000 - which is quite a way out of my price range). It really is a clusterfuck of a system, and one that's been put in place for the hell of it.

And lol, I will avoid chemistry as much as humanly possible thanks very much :P. While it may very well be useful, banging my head repeatedly against a brick wall instead would be more fun... and likely better for my GPA.
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1835 on: October 19, 2014, 11:17:27 pm »
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On an entirely separate note, one of the Science units I was taking next semester was just cancelled. Anyone have any good, preferably easy Science units (ideally with no exam assessment) that I could take instead?

What unit was that?
There's a new unit coming out next year: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/units/SCI3910.html
Could be worth a look.



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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1836 on: October 19, 2014, 11:22:32 pm »
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Now I'm slightly confused, alondouek - I can't see genetics on the list either, so why do you have to do genetics... How are they allowing genetics to be a major you could use?

What unit was that?
There's a new unit coming out next year: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/units/SCI3910.html
Could be worth a look.

This actually looks super cool! I plan to take it in third year (assuming they keep it after next year, of course, but I can't see that being an issue). Hopefully they extend it to semester 1 as well, like other research projects. Not too big a deal if they don't, of course.

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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1837 on: October 19, 2014, 11:27:47 pm »
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What unit was that?
There's a new unit coming out next year: http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/units/SCI3910.html
Could be worth a look.

MON2001, looks really good and it's a shame it's not running. Anyone who's done first-year physiology can testify to Ramesh's brilliant teaching skills.

That unit looks pretty cool! Not sure I could fit it into my timetable though unfortunately, looks like a pretty heavy commitment.

You doing Honours next year Disa?

Now I'm slightly confused, alondouek - I can't see genetics on the list either, so why do you have to do genetics... How are they allowing genetics to be a major you could use?

This actually looks super cool! I plan to take it in third year (assuming they keep it after next year, of course, but I can't see that being an issue). Hopefully they extend it to semester 1 as well, like other research projects. Not too big a deal if they don't, of course.

I started in 2013, check the handbook entry for my course back then - it was on the list :)
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1838 on: October 19, 2014, 11:36:52 pm »
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Ah yes, I see it now - I was going off the page you listed earlier, hahah.

You could do first year astro - exam's only 50%, and it seems pretty breezy from what I've heard. Second semester is probably more your thing than first semester, though. (often referred to as "astrobio" by my friends. :P)

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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1839 on: October 19, 2014, 11:38:54 pm »
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Ah yes, I see it now - I was going off the page you listed earlier, hahah.

You could do first year astro - exam's only 50%, and it seems pretty breezy from what I've heard. Second semester is probably more your thing than first semester, though. (often referred to as "astrobio" by my friends. :P)

Cheers, I'll have a look at it! I'm also going to see if I can get any HSC units credited for Science, there's one (Intro to Clinical Research) that looks really, really useful and interesting.
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1840 on: October 20, 2014, 12:41:52 am »
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On an entirely separate note, one of the Science units I was taking next semester was just cancelled. Anyone have any good, preferably easy Science units (ideally with no exam assessment) that I could take instead?

It'll vary depending on whether you can accept first year units or not. ASP1022 is really interesting (astrobiology); it includes bits of evolutionary biology, astronomy, computing, geology, geography(kinda) and Space!!. It's good because within it you can lean towards the bio side or the astro side, there's that kind of wiggle room.

For someone used to the life sciences, i found geography a very welcome switch (http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/aos/geographical-science/), particularly ATS1310 (who doesn't like volcanos? and natural disasters will always be interesting; looks at it from the science side but also from the geographical human perspectives of how cities are organised, socioeconomic factors, government responses, etc).

You might also enjoy this:  MTH2132 The nature and beauty of mathematics http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/units/MTH2132.html

Lastly i reckon this is a pretty good unit, gives an overview of the drug industry (marketing, development), how certain drugs work (more shallow than third year though), drugs of abuse and how drugs are regulated (why can you buy panadol at coles but not blood pressure medication?) -      PHA2022 Drugs and society (http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2015handbooks/aos/pharmacology/).

But of course i am heavily biased..

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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1841 on: October 20, 2014, 08:12:59 pm »
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You doing Honours next year Disa?

Yup, that's the plan :)
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Re: Monash General Chat
« Reply #1842 on: October 21, 2014, 08:27:00 am »
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because next year, they'll be in the new building :o

It's about time, I hate having to walk all the way around to get to building 28

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« Reply #1843 on: October 22, 2014, 09:10:25 pm »
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Long shot, but has anyone here done/have access to the unit guide for/know anything about HUP3011?
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« Reply #1844 on: October 24, 2014, 12:02:50 pm »
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The amount of JMSS kids running through the maths building is disturbing... It's not even exam time and they're already roaming the campus.