Monash General Chat

[duhherro]

hey guys do you reckon, that if i just rock up to a tute different to my allocated time, what would happen? Will they let me join that time or complain :S

[anna.xo]

hey guys do you reckon, that if i just rock up to a tute different to my allocated time, what would happen? Will they let me join that time or complain :S

I don't think you should do this without first talking to someone about it (course admin or tutor or whoever is relevant to your unit), just because most units have tute attendance as a hurdle requirement. If you just rock up to a different one unannounced then you could have a whole host of new problems (failing the unit, angry tutors, etc). As for letting you join, I don't know about that. If someone who has more experience with uni life could clarify, that would be great

[M_BONG]

So Tuesday is the first day I will be on campus and I have a lecture at 9AM (it's an Arts one) and I will know no one in my lecture. Is it a good idea to talk to people during lectures? Do people generally want to be left alone in lectures and tutes?

Also, are Booze Cruises (Med/Law cruises) worth going to? For those who've been on one - is it just an alcohol revelry or is there some fun stuff involved? Also, I have little to no experience with alcohol and I have to get home by bus lolol. Should I go? It's $70..

[keltingmeith]

So Tuesday is the first day I will be on campus and I have a lecture at 9AM (it's an Arts one) and I will know no one in my lecture. Is it a good idea to talk to people during lectures? Do people generally want to be left alone in lectures and tutes?

Depends on the person. I tend to make jokes with friends during lectures, but if some random tried to talk to me during a lecture, I'd probably tell him to shush so I can pay attention. Of course, talking to people before/after lectures is fine (unless they tell you to go away)

Also, are Booze Cruises (Med/Law cruises) worth going to? For those who've been on one - is it just an alcohol revelry or is there some fun stuff involved? Also, I have little to no experience with alcohol and I have to get home by bus lolol. Should I go? It's $70..

If you don't like sex or alcohol, I cannot promise you'll enjoy uni parties, like this one. To my knowledge, booze cruises are basically just club environments on a boat with cheap beer.

[achre]

hey guys do you reckon, that if i just rock up to a tute different to my allocated time, what would happen? Will they let me join that time or complain :S

Will they let you join? Possibly. Likely. I've had people attend my tutes unannounced and have just spoken to the tutor in person minutes prior to the start of the tute. This has happened a few times. It's not a huge inconvenience, unless there's a test on that day or something. It's just one extra person in the class discussion. Don't just rock up and sit down without saying anything though haha, do speak to the tutor running that tute, even if it's only a minute or two in advance. Otherwise you'll be prompted on what you're doing, probably in front of the entire tute. And if you're told to leave for whatever reason that would be crazy embarrassing.

Will it count as an attendance? No. Unless you can produce a medical certificate and you've run it past your tutor first, all attending a different tute time is gonna do is provide you with whatever insight you missed out on not attending your allocated tute. The hurdle attendence requirement is about attending your own tutes.

[MDMA]

I'm pretty disorganised but I just tried buying a parking permit then for Clayton thinking I could do it whenever and now I've been added to some waiting list. Clayton is a 15 minute drive from my house at most, more like 10 minutes but public transport takes around an hour so that idea doesn't entice me. The metered car parking is like $11 for 3 hours max so I'm stumped as to what I'm going to do. I was considering the car pooling idea but I don't have my ID yet.

Are there any like surrounding local streets that you can park all day for free in residential areas? e

[keltingmeith]

I'm pretty disorganised but I just tried buying a parking permit then for Clayton thinking I could do it whenever and now I've been added to some waiting list. Clayton is a 15 minute drive from my house at most, more like 10 minutes but public transport takes around an hour so that idea doesn't entice me. The metered car parking is like $11 for 3 hours max so I'm stumped as to what I'm going to do. I was considering the car pooling idea but I don't have my ID yet.

Are there any like surrounding local streets that you can park all day for free in residential areas? e

Synchrotron, you gotta get in early though.

[anna.xo]

How does the library system work ? I need one of my textbooks and the options are - reserve overnight, general access and general access 1 week. Which do I get ?

[keltingmeith]

How does the library system work ? I need one of my textbooks and the options are - reserve overnight, general access and general access 1 week. Which do I get ?

Try for general access - that will give you access for the book the longest. (plus, as long as nobody reserves it, you can continuously renew it online)

[M_BONG]

Hey um I am looking to join clubs the next week I get on campus (I missed O-week); I heard something about Clubs Week where I can join clubs but after googling it, I can't find anything on it? How do I find more info about how to join clubs/clubs week?

Also, is there a page where Monash lists all the clubs' meeting locations and times? I just realised one of the clubs I wanted to join had meetings on a Monday - a day off for me - so I need to change my timetable around..

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Are we expected to read all the readings? For example, I got 55 pages of reading for Week 1 alone from my Arts units. Am I expected to read them all - or are readings optional? Also, what do you guys recommend doing after reading - take notes? Or is that too much of a waste of time since readings (I think) correspond to lectures, right?

[duhherro]

thanks for the replies guys! I have some pretty bad times for my tutes, so i just wanna join the sessions where its more preferable to me and fits in my timetable better, but those allocations on the website are all full

[AngelWings]

thanks for the replies guys! I have some pretty bad times for my tutes, so i just wanna join the sessions where its more preferable to me and fits in my timetable better, but those allocations on the website are all full

Depending on the nature of reason to want to move (e.g. if you have work, you can't get there in time since x reason), you might be able to do a trade with someone who's got your desired time. For this, you should ask on your discussion forum. If it's not too big a deal to someone, then you might be lucky enough to get what you want.
 

Hey um I am looking to join clubs the next week I get on campus (I missed O-week); I heard something about Clubs Week where I can join clubs but after googling it, I can't find anything on it? How do I find more info about how to join clubs/clubs week?

Also, is there a page where Monash lists all the clubs' meeting locations and times? I just realised one of the clubs I wanted to join had meetings on a Monday - a day off for me - so I need to change my timetable around..

The clubs will be back on Wednesday (I believe this is Clubs Day), if you're at the Clayton campus. (Not really sure for the rest.) Probably still at the Lemon Scented Lawns (unless they took the tents down since Friday). You can still sign up then - or at least, that's what I've read. Check out this website for student associations for your branch: http://monash.edu/students/associations/student.html. It will vary in name depending on the campus where you are going to study. If you want discounts for quite a number of clubs, an MSA card is probably up your alley, which you will have to register partially online (and pay online, though optional).

[achre]

Are we expected to read all the readings? For example, I got 55 pages of reading for Week 1 alone from my Arts units. Am I expected to read them all - or are readings optional? Also, what do you guys recommend doing after reading - take notes? Or is that too much of a waste of time since readings (I think) correspond to lectures, right?

Basically, yes.

Doing the set readings is doing the bare minimum, and I'd encourage you to think of them as such. For subjects like Human Rights Theory (for some reason I think you're doing this unit, idk, maybe my mind's playing tricks on me), the readings can get quite long, and it's not a huge help that it's written in very academic language. This is why I say that most students don't even do the bare minimum, because it's commonplace for people to come into tutes having not done the readings (and sometimes having not even watched the lecture/s for that week). This is that independent learning thing a lot of people talk about.

Readings aren't optional in that tutors will assume you've done the readings in planning lessons. However, you can totally "get away" with not doing them. By that I mean, if you get called on to answer a question (for whatever reason, usually input in tutes is volunteered), and you say you haven't done the reading, you're not going to get penalised or anything. There's no detention tutors are going to put you in, an usually no marks they can deduct from you. But if it becomes a habit, which it's easy to develop into, that can be quite detrimental to your learning experience in uni. By that I mean if you only do the essential readings, the readings from the two or three weeks that are relevent to your assignments, and skip every other week, you won't be able to constructively participate. If you become passive and get used to staring at the wall in tutes you haven't prepared for, it can be somewhat difficult to suddenly start actively contributing to discussion.

I'd recommend getting used to blasting through dense readings as early as possible. If you focus all your energy into it, it should never take more than, say, an hour to do a single reading. (And often your units will have at most 2 readings per week) As for taking notes, I'd recommend writing them while reading, as it shores up your not having to go back and double check things from earlier pages. It only gets easier with time. After a while all those latin phrases that academics like to use become second nature, like de jure or prima facie or even mutatis mutandis :&

[M_BONG]

Basically, yes.

Doing the set readings is doing the bare minimum, and I'd encourage you to think of them as such. For subjects like Human Rights Theory (for some reason I think you're doing this unit, idk, maybe my mind's playing tricks on me), the readings can get quite long, and it's not a huge help that it's written in very academic language. This is why I say that most students don't even do the bare minimum, because it's commonplace for people to come into tutes having not done the readings (and sometimes having not even watched the lecture/s for that week). This is that independent learning thing a lot of people talk about.

Readings aren't optional in that tutors will assume you've done the readings in planning lessons. However, you can totally "get away" with not doing them. By that I mean, if you get called on to answer a question (for whatever reason, usually input in tutes is volunteered), and you say you haven't done the reading, you're not going to get penalised or anything. There's no detention tutors are going to put you in, an usually no marks they can deduct from you. But if it becomes a habit, which it's easy to develop into, that can be quite detrimental to your learning experience in uni. By that I mean if you only do the essential readings, the readings from the two or three weeks that are relevent to your assignments, and skip every other week, you won't be able to constructively participate. If you become passive and get used to staring at the wall in tutes you haven't prepared for, it can be somewhat difficult to suddenly start actively contributing to discussion.

I'd recommend getting used to blasting through dense readings as early as possible. If you focus all your energy into it, it should never take more than, say, an hour to do a single reading. (And often your units will have at most 2 readings per week) As for taking notes, I'd recommend writing them while reading, as it shores up your not having to go back and double check things from earlier pages. It only gets easier with time. After a while all those latin phrases that academics like to use become second nature, like de jure or prima facie or even mutatis mutandis :&

Haha yes, I am doing Human Rights Theory - awesome guess. Week 1 reading actually looks intimidating - 35 pages lololol - and yup, as you pointed out it's in very dense and academic language.

[MDMA]

stupid me I went to monash for like three hours today trying to get an ID walking to that main place then going to libraries and shit seeing if anyone could do it but I couldn't get into libraries without an ID. blehh.