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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14265 on: November 22, 2016, 09:59:41 pm »
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for trig function values, do the examiners/teachers care if you do not rationalise the trig surd?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14266 on: November 22, 2016, 10:21:22 pm »
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for trig function values, do the examiners/teachers care if you do not rationalise the trig surd?
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Nope, don't think so.  :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14267 on: November 23, 2016, 11:55:22 am »
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Whats the difference between range and codomain?got really confused
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14268 on: November 23, 2016, 12:08:26 pm »
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Whats the difference between range and codomain?got really confused
A codomain is just the set of outputs you permit.

But consider f:[0,2]->[0,9], f(x)=x2

You permit the set of outputs to be [0,9]. That is to say, the codomain is [0,9]

But do you actually reach every element in the codomain? Note that NO value in the domain will ever be taken to 9, or 5, or 4.1

The range is the set of outputs your function actually reaches. Here, the range is [0,4]

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14269 on: November 23, 2016, 01:28:13 pm »
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Hi everyone  :D

Is it necessary/ beneficial to learn synthetic division? I've got long division and equating coefficients down pat, but the textbook also mentioned that another method of factoring polynomials is synthetic division. Not sure if it's advantageous to learn it or not.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14270 on: November 23, 2016, 01:37:58 pm »
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Hi everyone  :D

Is it necessary/ beneficial to learn synthetic division? I've got long division and equating coefficients down pat, but the textbook also mentioned that another method of factoring polynomials is synthetic division. Not sure if it's advantageous to learn it or not.

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I think its faster than long division but I don't think its necessary to know.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14271 on: November 23, 2016, 01:56:06 pm »
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Whats the difference between range and codomain?got really confused
You don't need to know about codomain but it wouldn't hurt to have an understanding(Re:RuiAce). In methods it will always be R.
Hi everyone  :D

Is it necessary/ beneficial to learn synthetic division? I've got long division and equating coefficients down pat, but the textbook also mentioned that another method of factoring polynomials is synthetic division. Not sure if it's advantageous to learn it or not.

Thanks  :)

Which textbook was synthetic division in?

It's definitely not necessary to know, you can get through VCE without ever using it.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14272 on: November 23, 2016, 02:08:30 pm »
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Hi everyone  :D

Is it necessary/ beneficial to learn synthetic division? I've got long division and equating coefficients down pat, but the textbook also mentioned that another method of factoring polynomials is synthetic division. Not sure if it's advantageous to learn it or not.

Thanks  :)
Never used it before because there are even faster methods but it's definitely faster than polynomial long division as mentioned

You don't need to know about codomain but it wouldn't hurt to have an understanding(Re:RuiAce). In methods it will always be R.
Which textbook was synthetic division in?

It's definitely not necessary to know, you can get through VCE without ever using it.
So basically all of your functions are always surjective?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14273 on: November 23, 2016, 02:17:50 pm »
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Hi everyone  :D

Is it necessary/ beneficial to learn synthetic division? I've got long division and equating coefficients down pat, but the textbook also mentioned that another method of factoring polynomials is synthetic division. Not sure if it's advantageous to learn it or not.

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I'd definitely learn it, much faster than some other methods, but as previous have mentioned, not necessary, but advantageous.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14274 on: November 23, 2016, 02:21:00 pm »
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So basically all of your functions are always surjective?

Nah, the range varies but the codomain is (almost) always R
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14275 on: November 23, 2016, 02:36:47 pm »
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Oh wait you guys meant R as in R the real numbers. Ok gotcha.

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« Reply #14276 on: November 23, 2016, 02:41:30 pm »
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Oh wait you guys meant R as in R the real numbers. Ok gotcha.

Hahaha yeah  ℝ
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14277 on: November 23, 2016, 03:24:25 pm »
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Thanks everyone, I'll give a crack at short division then seeing that it might save time  :P

Sine- The Cambridge textbook! Attached a pic of what it says about synthetic division.  :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14278 on: November 23, 2016, 07:11:00 pm »
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Oh wait you guys meant R as in R the real numbers. Ok gotcha.

... What other R could he mean? O.o

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #14279 on: November 23, 2016, 07:18:50 pm »
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... What other R could he mean? O.o

R as in Range, making the functions surjective ;)
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