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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5130 on: June 16, 2014, 07:20:50 pm »
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Okay, just so I can be 100% sure (not that I doubt you, this is just going to bug me, hahah), are you able to screenshot the question?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5131 on: June 16, 2014, 07:21:00 pm »
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Can someone help me with these questions?
1) A rectangle has 2 of its vertices on the x axis and the other 2 lie on the parabola y=16-x^2. Find the dimensions of the rectangle if it is to have maximum area
2) Find the dimensions of the rectangle with largest area which can be cut from a circle with equation x^2+y^2=4

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5132 on: June 16, 2014, 07:34:03 pm »
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Can someone help me with these questions?
1) A rectangle has 2 of its vertices on the x axis and the other 2 lie on the parabola y=16-x^2. Find the dimensions of the rectangle if it is to have maximum area
2) Find the dimensions of the rectangle with largest area which can be cut from a circle with equation x^2+y^2=4

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1) To simplify things, let's just work with one side of the parabola, because then we can just double the width because the parabola is symmetrical.



So we want the blue area to be a maximum and from the diagram we can see the width of the rectangle is 'a' and the height of the rectangle is 'f(a)':

Take the derivative and let it equal 0, so we can find the value of 'a' such that the area is a maximum:



Find f(a) - the height of the rectangle:


Hence the maximum area of the rectangle occurs when the width is and the height is
(Make sure you double the width value to take into account the other side of the parabola!)

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The graph is a circle with radius 2. Through intuition, the largest area will occur when there is a square placed inside the circle with vertices that touch the circle. Hence the diagonal of the square will be equal to the diameter 4.

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Using pythagoras:




Hence the dimensions for a maximum area are a rectangle with width and height equal to .

You can prove that the largest area will occur when there is a square in the circle by rearranging the equation for the circle for 'y', then applying the same steps I applied to Question 1.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5133 on: June 16, 2014, 07:40:48 pm »
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1) A = lw, where y is the length and x is the width. So, A = 16x - x^3. We want the area to be a maximum, so let dA/dx = 0, 16 = 3x^2, x=4/sqrt(3). Sub this into A, and you have your area. For full marks, you should confirm that this corresponds to a maximum with a double derivative or slope table.

2) not willing to do on a phone, sorry. :P Wait until later or for someone else. :P

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5134 on: June 16, 2014, 07:42:34 pm »
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Thanks Zealous and Eulerfan!

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5135 on: June 16, 2014, 08:06:13 pm »
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When a question states 'Find the rule of the inverse' versus 'Find/State the inverse', which one is it that you need to also write out the domain for?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5136 on: June 16, 2014, 08:10:00 pm »
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When a question states 'Find the rule of the inverse' versus 'Find/State the inverse', which one is it that you need to also write out the domain for?
Re: My Methods 3/4 questions thread

I don't think you'll get a question which just says "Find/State the inverse" - it's a little broad.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5137 on: June 16, 2014, 08:16:28 pm »
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I don't think you'll get a question which just says "Find/State the inverse" - it's a little broad.
Damn I thought it was the other way around (hopefully my domains are right though) >.<
Oh well at least that's cleared up for me now... thanks Zealous!

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5138 on: June 16, 2014, 08:48:08 pm »
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If and f(2) = 4 , then f(x) equals to:

The answer is but I don't understand why  :(
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5139 on: June 16, 2014, 08:59:36 pm »
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So:


And we know that f(2) = 4, so:


Just a tricky manipulation of log rules. Also - you can get rid of the modulus signs, because we know by the domain they've given us that we don't need them.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5140 on: June 16, 2014, 09:40:53 pm »
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EDIT: Damn those brs are just going to annoy me... Anyone know how to have them not show up on AN?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5141 on: June 16, 2014, 09:47:22 pm »
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Oh, that's going to mess with me so much, I always put my \\ at the end in my documents... Hahah, thanks.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5142 on: June 16, 2014, 10:51:50 pm »
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Just have a question.

What do you guys do when you get a question wrong? Like obviously, go over it, and never make the mistake again, but how do you guys go over the inccorect answer? Sometimes it takes me ages to understand why I got it wrong, and sometimes I just don't understand it at all

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5143 on: June 16, 2014, 11:04:16 pm »
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What do you guys do when you get a question wrong?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #5144 on: June 16, 2014, 11:16:19 pm »
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Seriously though, first thing I do (even now), is just ignore what I did before and re-attempt. If I get it wrong again, I look over my working. If it's not arithmetic, I assume my method is wrong and look over what I'm doing. It might take you quite a while before you figure it all out, and that's why you're one of the smart ones who figured out that you have AN as a good support network. ;)