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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2925 on: October 30, 2013, 06:32:53 pm »
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and are only equivalent  for , if you are looking at them as functions defined on their maximal domains then they are not equivalent. If you are looking at them as restricted functions on then they are equivalent.

That log law only takes into account the intersection of the domain for which they are both defined. That is for

For that question we're given . Now you have to look at the restrictions on the original equation. Everything we have inside any of the logs has to be greater than zero. That is and which means (and well ). The intersection of these two sets is what we can solve for on, i.e. , as that is what both parts of our equation will 'accept'. We can only find a solution when all parts of the equation is defined.

Think about it this way, what happens when you try to put back into in your original equation?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2926 on: October 30, 2013, 06:44:22 pm »
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^ Thanks heaps :) That makes sense
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2927 on: October 30, 2013, 08:30:44 pm »
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I don't know if anyones done the TSSM 2011 paper, but I don't know its my fault but I can't seem to get the right answers.

2d. Show that the value of m is 0.71... I keep getting 0.76 on cas????

2e.
 I haven't done a question like this in quite a while and I was stumped when I saw this question. I don't know if its cause I suck at probability or the wording of the question is not right.

The probability that customers will buy globes is 0.4.

Chris wants to ensure that the probability that his customers will buy coloured light globes two days in a row is at least 0.8. Find minimum number of of times Chris customers have to buy in a day to to achieve his aim.


Let X= No of times Customers buy coloured light globes
Pr (X>1)> or equal to 0.8  (thats what the solution begins with ... etc...etc..)

But I thought that is to find the number of customers buy coloured light globes (not in a row).
Question doesn't state at least two days.. etc. as well..




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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2928 on: October 30, 2013, 08:40:44 pm »
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I don't know if anyones done the TSSM 2011 paper, but I don't know its my fault but I can't seem to get the right answers.

2d. Show that the value of m is 0.71... I keep getting 0.76 on cas????

2e.
 I haven't done a question like this in quite a while and I was stumped when I saw this question. I don't know if its cause I suck at probability or the wording of the question is not right.

The probability that customers will buy globes is 0.4.

Chris wants to ensure that the probability that his customers will buy coloured light globes two days in a row is at least 0.8. Find minimum number of of times Chris customers have to buy in a day to to achieve his aim.


Let X= No of times Customers buy coloured light globes
Pr (X>1)> or equal to 0.8  (thats what the solution begins with ... etc...etc..)

But I thought that is to find the number of customers buy coloured light globes (not in a row).
Question doesn't state at least two days.. etc. as well..

I did that paper recently. I got 0.76 on the CAS.

A lot of the solutions for that section are just really misleading in my opinion - what they do in the solutions doesn't seem to actually make sense. Actually I guess the way they write some of their questions doesn't make sense as well. (I've seen some very badly written exams from TSSM)

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2929 on: October 30, 2013, 08:45:45 pm »
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Yeah their papers are terrible,,, this is the first one i've done from TSSM. Not impressed.


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« Reply #2930 on: October 30, 2013, 08:49:33 pm »
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I haven't done TSSM for Methods, but for Accounting they are horrible.

Heffernan and MAV are definitely good companies to get onto if you have access to them. :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2931 on: October 30, 2013, 08:52:40 pm »
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Are TSFX good? I have a few of their papers provided from the school, I've  heard that they're crazy. (Super hard, badly written, and not realistic)?

LOL i guess they trick students thinking they are struggling at methods so that they can go to their lectures...

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« Reply #2932 on: October 30, 2013, 08:57:31 pm »
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Are TSFX good? I have a few of their papers provided from the school, I've  heard that they're crazy. (Super hard, badly written, and not realistic)?

LOL i guess they trick students thinking they are struggling at methods so that they can go to their lectures...

Yeah, they are pretty good. Yes, TSFX ones are definitely hard. Solutions can sometimes have mistakes, but they are generally good. :)

LOL....Possibly. They spam my inbox with those "End of year Revision Lectures" anyways, so eh. :P

iTute Trial Exams are also hard if you are up for the challenge. :D

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« Reply #2933 on: October 30, 2013, 10:39:33 pm »
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TSSM AND TSFX are unreliable

I suggest VCAA, Hefferman, MAV, Kilbaha then NEAP in that order.

What about Insight? I think they are fairly good, and similar difficulty to that of VCAA.

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« Reply #2934 on: October 30, 2013, 10:52:08 pm »
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My school hasn't given me those but I dont like the sound of "insight", just another company trying to make a few bucks by throwing questions together with incorrect answers and mistakes everywhere

LOL! Personally, I like them. As I said before, I think they are the same difficulty as VCAA.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2935 on: October 30, 2013, 11:02:23 pm »
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Their ok. But the wording of their questions is sometimes bad.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2936 on: October 30, 2013, 11:13:42 pm »
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Insight weren't too bad error wise (although I haven't done any of the new exams after 2011). They were just a hell of a lot easier than they should be (compared to vcaa even), which gives a false sense of security sometimes.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2937 on: October 30, 2013, 11:55:41 pm »
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Look at the basic graph of .
Since the fraction is in simplest form and we have an even power over and odd power, we know that the graph will have a shape similar to , that is a sideways graph, but remembering that it will vary with .
You can then think of it as . Now as we have this even point in the numerator of the fraction, our function is now an even function, so whatever we have on the right of the axis will be copied and flipped across the axis. Our curve will sitll be concave down as our power is less than . Then we apply the transformation of 1 unit in the positive direction of the axis and 2 units in the positive direction of the axis, which means the cusp we had at now moves to .
Finally, we should show and intercepts, because of the way we've translated it, the curve will not have intercepts.
For intercepts, let .
Then
I.e. at .
You could probably also show another point if you wanted to, so we'd pick something that comes out nicely. We need to pick something such that we have a nice number come out when we cube root . So lets say , so . So

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/umkdqwiupu

And how do you guys usually estimate values like cube root of 4 (we need it for this Q)
You could do something with Euler's method, , but the approximation would be way off since the gap to the next nearest integer is large.

Depends how good of an approximation you need? If you just need it as a ball park estimate to graph then well , , and well as , which means . (Actual value is 1.5874....)

EDIT: Made a bit of a mess of that explanation for the graph, see what Phy linked.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2938 on: October 31, 2013, 12:01:04 am »
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In calc free how do you guys go about sketching graphs like

y=(x-1)^(2/3) +2

And how do you guys usually estimate values like cube root of 4 (we need it for this Q)


Use this:
Im kinda lazy, so here's a screenshot rather than me type it all up again:
(Image removed from quote.)

nliu's method is pretty good, but only covers x1/n using calculus.

Hope it helps :D
Then apply transformations.

It appears that in the 10 minutes it took me to find Alwin's post b^3 has beaten me to it, but I'll post this anyway so you can learn the other forms.

(Also, if you click on the quote from Alwin, I believe there should be a bit more discussion on how to graph functions like these on the same page)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2939 on: October 31, 2013, 10:16:01 am »
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But on a practice spesh exam, my spesh teacher took a mark off because I put the square root of 2 too close to 1 (I did about 1.7 instead of 1.4 lol)
Haha wow, poor you. I've actually memorised root 2 and root 3 just from doing lots of circular functions (not to heaps of dec places).. Dunno how if we're supposed to work in exact, but I did anyway :p
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