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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6690 on: November 04, 2014, 01:21:41 pm »
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Ahhhh thanks! I should start to use the formula sheet more haha. However the answer is 2 not root(2)?

Yeah - I just edited that in aha, I was just showing what sec(pi/4) is
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« Reply #6691 on: November 04, 2014, 01:22:19 pm »
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How do we get 2? I understand that () = 1 thus . How does this equate to 2?
I was thinking to differentiate sec^2 but seems like I'm getting no where haha. Thanks.

sec^2(pi/4) = 1/[cos(pi/4)]^2 = 1/(sqrt2/2)^2 = 1/2/4 = 4/2 = 2.

tan(pi/4) = 1

So, sec^2(pi/4) / tan(pi/4) = 2/1 =2

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6692 on: November 04, 2014, 01:26:55 pm »
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Can someone please help me with 2007 VCAA exam 1 q 2b?
It's a really simple differentiation question but I can't do it (haha don't judge! )

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6693 on: November 04, 2014, 01:30:02 pm »
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Here's my working. The answer is A - I'm not sure how :(




Now sub them in


Which led me to believe the answer is C?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6694 on: November 04, 2014, 01:34:00 pm »
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Here's my working. The answer is A - I'm not sure how :(




Now sub them in


Which led me to believe the answer is C?

Because you're trying to find the original function, don't transpose for x/y -> sub in x' and y'.
Basically, when you're going from f -> x2, that would require subbing in x/y (as you found above) -> however, to go backwards, from x2 -> f, you sub x'/y'.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6695 on: November 04, 2014, 01:36:10 pm »
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Can someone please help me with 2007 VCAA exam 1 q 2b?
It's a really simple differentiation question but I can't do it (haha don't judge! )

Thanks heaps
Well you know the derivative of log will be the differentiated bit in the inside over the inside so essentially you differentiate tan(x) and that will be over tan(x).

Looking at your formula sheet, you know the derivative of tan(x) is 1/cos(x)^2 which will be all over tan(x). However I would split up tan(x) into sin(x)/cos(x) and make it all into one fraction so you can cancel one of the cos(x) to get:



Here you can sub in pi/4 and you'll get 1/(2/4) which is just 2 :)

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« Reply #6696 on: November 04, 2014, 01:38:13 pm »
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Can someone please help me with 2007 VCAA exam 1 q 2b?
It's a really simple differentiation question but I can't do it (haha don't judge! )

Thanks heaps

It's okay :)

1. Find the derivative.

If y = loge(x), dy/dx = 1/x

So, if g(x) = loge(tan(x)), g'(x) = sec^2(x) / tan(x).

Therefore, g'(x) = sec^2(c) / tan(x)

3. Make the substitution.

Let's dissect what we have.

sec^2(x) = 1/[cos(x)]^2.
So, sec^2(pi/4) = 1/[cos(pi/4)]^2 = 1/(sqrt2/2)^2 = 1/2/4 = 4/2 = 2.

The denominator, tan(x), also requires substitution. So, tan(pi/4) = 1.

Bringing it together, 2/1 = 2.

Hope this helps :)

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« Reply #6697 on: November 04, 2014, 01:40:04 pm »
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Thanks Speedy n Yacoubb. :)
Another question, how do you do these? I find them soooooooooo hard. It kills me haha.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6698 on: November 04, 2014, 01:44:38 pm »
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Thanks Speedy n Yacoubb. :)
Another question, how do you do these? I find them soooooooooo hard. It kills me haha.

First look at stationary points - the derivative function will cross the x-axis/touch the x-axis here.
Next, look at the types of turning points -> for example: max (gradient) goes +ve 0 -ve. So for the derivative graph, it will start above the x-axis (+ve), cross it (0) and then continue down (-ve). A point of inflection will just touch the x-axis as the gradient stays the same.

Then have open circles where there are sharp points and discontinuities/end points.

Edit: another thing, the derivative graph is always going to be n-1 power. Therefore, for quadratics you will get linear etc. So for your graph, (on the LHS) the curve derivative will be a straight line, and (on the RHS) the straight line will be at a constant value.  The final bit will be at 0 (horizontal line - m = 0)
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« Reply #6699 on: November 04, 2014, 01:44:47 pm »
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Thanks Speedy n Yacoubb. :)
Another question, how do you do these? I find them soooooooooo hard. It kills me haha.

Okay so you need to take some things into consideration here.
(1.) You cannot differentiate the function at points like:
- Endpoints
- Cusps
- Points of discontinuity.

Any points like that, you must place an uncoloured circle (i.e. a white circle denoting the exclusion of that point). Then remember basic principles. If your function is quadratic, your derivative will be linear. Cubic --> quadratic, etc. SO employ these, and sketch the function of your derivative.

Your domain of the derivative is simply going to be everything EXCEPT within the points you're given EXCEPT endpoints, cusps and points of discontinuity.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6700 on: November 04, 2014, 01:46:20 pm »
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Because you're trying to find the original function, don't transpose for x/y -> sub in x' and y'.
Basically, when you're going from f -> x2, that would require subbing in x/y (as you found above) -> however, to go backwards, from x2 -> f, you sub x'/y'.

Ahhhh I think I get you. So since it says that the matrix maps a function TO x2 then the transformations remain untouched? So when it says a function of x2 to a new function THEN you do what I did above.

Never knew that - Nice.

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« Reply #6701 on: November 04, 2014, 01:46:46 pm »
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For Q19 in 2013 VCAA Exam 2, in the solution it says solve in the domain [0, 3pi]

Where did they get this domain from?



Also can someone explain VCAA Exam 2 2007 quesiton 5fii please?

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« Reply #6702 on: November 04, 2014, 01:47:07 pm »
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Could someone super please show me how to answer this???

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« Reply #6703 on: November 04, 2014, 01:51:55 pm »
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Ahhhh I think I get you. So since it says that the matrix maps a function TO x2 then the transformations remain untouched? So when it says a function of x2 to a new function THEN you do what I did above.

Never knew that - Nice.

Mm kinda, don't memorise it. If the transformation x = x'-5 is applied to f to get x2, then the transformation x' = x+5 'undoes' this change to get x2 it back to f.
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« Reply #6704 on: November 04, 2014, 01:57:18 pm »
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First look at stationary points - the derivative function will cross the x-axis/touch the x-axis here.
Next, look at the types of turning points -> for example: max (gradient) goes +ve 0 -ve. So for the derivative graph, it will start above the x-axis (+ve), cross it (0) and then continue down (-ve). A point of inflection will just touch the x-axis as the gradient stays the same.

Then have open circles where there are sharp points and discontinuities/end points.

Edit: another thing, the derivative graph is always going to be n-1 power. Therefore, for quadratics you will get linear etc. So for your graph, (on the LHS) the curve derivative will be a straight line, and (on the RHS) the straight line will be at a constant value.  The final bit will be at 0 (horizontal line - m = 0)
Okay so you need to take some things into consideration here.
(1.) You cannot differentiate the function at points like:
- Endpoints
- Cusps
- Points of discontinuity.

Any points like that, you must place an uncoloured circle (i.e. a white circle denoting the exclusion of that point). Then remember basic principles. If your function is quadratic, your derivative will be linear. Cubic --> quadratic, etc. SO employ these, and sketch the function of your derivative.

Your domain of the derivative is simply going to be everything EXCEPT within the points you're given EXCEPT endpoints, cusps and points of discontinuity.
Don't think I'll be getting this anytime soon :( so complicated it hurts LOL.
Could someone super please show me how to answer this???
Use the quotient rule!
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