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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1830 on: June 17, 2013, 06:39:54 pm »
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I forgot my maths book at school but what is the formula for diff log

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« Reply #1831 on: June 17, 2013, 06:41:28 pm »
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I forgot my maths book at school but what is the formula for diff log





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« Reply #1832 on: June 17, 2013, 07:18:52 pm »
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« Reply #1833 on: June 17, 2013, 07:24:28 pm »
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Good evening everyone,
I dont understand anything about Euler's. Can someone provide a step by step answer to this question?

Heinemann  Question 4(a)

Use Euler's method to solve the following differential equation with a step size of 0.5.

(a) in the interval


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1834 on: June 17, 2013, 07:41:56 pm »
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1835 on: June 17, 2013, 07:53:59 pm »
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Basically what Euler's method does is approximate the value of a point that's close to a point that you have, by using a small value and the derivative of the function. Other than questions like these, VCE doesn't go into it too much, but later on it can be used to help approximate solutions to certain problems that involve a differential equation that doesn't have an explicit solution.
So basically in VCE, all this is, is manipulating the following formula:
, the smaller is the better the approximation will be.
So what the above formula is doing is taking an initial point, and then by extending the tangent of the curve at that point a short distance, we can approximate a point close to it. This can be repeated with a small step size to get an approximate solution further along the curve, as below.
So we take the first point, and add to the value the product of the step size and the value of the derivative at that point.
This will give out another value that is an approximation of . Then we use that point and repeat, approximating the next point until we get to .


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1836 on: June 17, 2013, 08:03:30 pm »
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Hello everyone~
Q1: From the equation , how does one conclude that there would be no x intercepts?


Q2: From the equation , how would one go about finding the x intercepts?



Q3: How does one calculate the domain required for ?


Q4: I'm quite unsure about concepts asking about anything involving (unable to list an example). 
       (Also unsure about ).

Thanks :)
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« Reply #1837 on: June 17, 2013, 08:24:33 pm »
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Hello everyone~
Q1: From the equation , how does one conclude that there would be no x intercepts?

Q2: From the equation , how would one go about finding the x intercepts?


Q3: How does one calculate the domain required for s..

kk~

Q1
I'm assuming you meant this:


For x-intercepts, y = 0

   since the denominator cannot equal 0

But, since , there is no x-intercept.

Q2
For x-intercepts, y = 0





Q3


Hmm, going by your original LaTex...
Maximal domain is everything except when the denominator equals zero.





So clearly there are no solutions, since


Hence, the maximum domain should be R
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« Reply #1838 on: June 17, 2013, 10:09:53 pm »
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^you're forgetting the tan function itself is undefined at odd multiples of , so the domain is the same as the domain of the tan function.
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« Reply #1839 on: June 17, 2013, 10:39:16 pm »
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Yeah there's a problem with your working; if you rewrite the reciprocal cosine function as sec(arctan blah), then use sec x = +-sqrt(tan^2x +1), you get function = +-sqrt((blah)^2+1)
where blah = 5/2 - tan A
Now unfortunately blah is not defined for A=pi/2, and undefined squared isn't exactly very pretty. If tan A is undefined, your function will be undefined. The problem is that inverse tan of effectively +- infinity (which is what 5/2 - tan A approaches as A approaches pi/2+n pi) is going to be +-pi/2. Cosine of that is 0, and reciprocal of that is...erm...

Even in your last line, taking tangents of both sides, 5/2 - tan A = tan (2k pi + theta)
aka the condition that y is undefined is satisfied when tan A is undefined.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1840 on: June 18, 2013, 07:46:17 pm »
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find the equation of the tangents to the curve with the function with rule y=x^2 at the points where x=a and x=-and find the coordiantes of the point of intersection of these two tangents.  :o i have no idea what to do

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« Reply #1841 on: June 18, 2013, 07:57:28 pm »
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^you're forgetting the tan function itself is undefined at odd multiples of , so the domain is the same as the domain of the tan function.
Yeah there's a problem with your working; if you rewrite the reciprocal cosine function as sec(arctan blah), then use sec x = +-sqrt(tan^2x +1), you get function = +-sqrt((blah)^2+1)
where blah = 5/2 - tan A
...
Even in your last line, taking tangents of both sides, 5/2 - tan A = tan (2k pi + theta)
aka the condition that y is undefined is satisfied when tan A is undefined.

Thanks guys, completely forgot about that, I think I was treating tan(A) as a constant (completely wrong)
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« Reply #1842 on: June 18, 2013, 08:05:56 pm »
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find the equation of the tangents to the curve with the function with rule y=x^2 at the points where x=a and x=-and find the coordiantes of the point of intersection of these two tangents.  :o i have no idea what to do



the value of x1
the value of y1
finding the gradient of the tangents
               use the formula y-y1=m(x-x1)
these are the two equations of the tangents.


Solving the two simultaneous equations,




Hence, the two tangent lines intersect at the point (0, -a2)
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« Reply #1843 on: June 18, 2013, 09:31:33 pm »
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Hey im new guys to the forum and needed a little bit of help
the graph of y=ax^2+bx has  a turning point at (1,-2). the values of and b are ?

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« Reply #1844 on: June 18, 2013, 09:39:48 pm »
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We know that we have one point which will give us one equation, and two unknowns. So we need another equation. We know that the gradient at a turning point is zero, so you can differentiate the expression, substitute in the value when the derivative is zero to find your second equation. Then solve the two simultaneously.
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