Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

September 20, 2025, 05:16:52 am

Author Topic: VCE Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!  (Read 2603059 times)  Share 

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

b^3

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3529
  • Overloading, just don't do it.
  • Respect: +631
  • School: Western Suburbs Area
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2655 on: November 08, 2013, 04:33:39 pm »
+3
If you leave the one under the as (well really but you know what I mean) and the one under the as then it will still follow the basic form , it's just that the hyperbola is now on the other side of the asymptotes.
Have a look at the links below, and use the sliders to move it around e.t.c.
Positive , negative : https://www.desmos.com/calculator/dcr4o00o9b
Positive negative : https://www.desmos.com/calculator/cmbdhw0ail
Both on the same axes: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/7tlpu69l2v

E.g. for the question above we would have so and so option C.
I.e. https://www.desmos.com/calculator/h85ui63pba
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 04:41:29 pm by b^3 »
2012-2016: Aerospace Engineering/Science (Double Major in Applied Mathematics - Monash Uni)
TI-NSPIRE GUIDES: METH, SPESH

Co-Authored AtarNotes' Maths Study Guides


I'm starting to get too old for this... May be on here or irc from time to time.

satya

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 78
  • Respect: 0
  • School: dandenong
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2656 on: November 08, 2013, 04:42:51 pm »
+2
If where asked to graph a relation in the complex plane and it has a restriction Arg(z) <  π/2, do we graph it between - π < Arg(z) <  π/2?

Considering this graph: y = x/2 + 1 where Arg(z) <  π/2. This line in graphed in the first and third quadrant.
When it's restricted to Arg(z) <  π/4, it's only graphed in quadrant one. Could someone please explain why?

if arg(z)  <pi/2 then you should shade between 0 to pi/2 becasue arg(z) is less than pi/2
and for the line without any restriction it is in first and third quadrant, but when Arg(z) <pi/4 then it's only between 0 to pi/4 hence the line only exists in the frist quad.


papertowns

  • Victorian
  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 35
  • Respect: 0
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2657 on: November 08, 2013, 05:02:52 pm »
0
If you leave the one under the as (well really but you know what I mean) and the one under the as then it will still follow the basic form , it's just that the hyperbola is now on the other side of the asymptotes.
Have a look at the links below, and use the sliders to move it around e.t.c.
Positive , negative : https://www.desmos.com/calculator/dcr4o00o9b
Positive negative : https://www.desmos.com/calculator/cmbdhw0ail
Both on the same axes: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/7tlpu69l2v

E.g. for the question above we would have so and so option C.
I.e. https://www.desmos.com/calculator/h85ui63pba

Wow those links are pretty awesome, thanks for that!
And yeah okay, leaving it the same gives the correct answer :D thanks again!

papertowns

  • Victorian
  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 35
  • Respect: 0
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2658 on: November 08, 2013, 05:03:56 pm »
+1
Help with this one please :')

b^3

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3529
  • Overloading, just don't do it.
  • Respect: +631
  • School: Western Suburbs Area
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2659 on: November 08, 2013, 05:12:56 pm »
+3
Lets say our point is ( is positive real number and is negative) real number, then we have

Now since we know that , then so dividing our components by something that is greater than will give something smaller than our original components. Now we also note that initially is positive and is negative, and as we have and   in our result we need something that is in the fourth quadrant but has components that are smaller than our original components, which is closest to option C since it's in the right quadrant and the other options that have the right quadrant have larger components.

You could also look at it as taking the conjugate, which will flip it across the axis and then taking 1 over a complex number will scale down the components when the magnitude is greater than one, and change the size of the imaginary component. In this case that is 4th quad --> flip across when taking conjugate --> 1st Quad ---> Flip across and scale components according to ---> 4th quad with smaller components.

The flipping with the conjugate you should know but it's probably easier to re-derive what happens with the 1 on .
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 05:18:21 pm by b^3 »
2012-2016: Aerospace Engineering/Science (Double Major in Applied Mathematics - Monash Uni)
TI-NSPIRE GUIDES: METH, SPESH

Co-Authored AtarNotes' Maths Study Guides


I'm starting to get too old for this... May be on here or irc from time to time.

brightsky

  • Victorian
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3136
  • Respect: +200
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2660 on: November 08, 2013, 05:30:19 pm »
+3
can also let z=rcist. 1/conj(z) = 1/rcis(-t) = 1/r*cis(t). so angle doesn't change. the modulus just gets smaller.
2020 - 2021: Master of Public Health, The University of Sydney
2017 - 2020: Doctor of Medicine, The University of Melbourne
2014 - 2016: Bachelor of Biomedicine, The University of Melbourne
2013 ATAR: 99.95

Currently selling copies of the VCE Chinese Exam Revision Book and UMEP Maths Exam Revision Book, and accepting students for Maths Methods and Specialist Maths Tutoring in 2020!

duhherro

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 424
  • Respect: +22
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2661 on: November 08, 2013, 05:38:33 pm »
0
Hey guys,

for 2009 exam 2, Q5g) How come you can't do 1200 = integral from 0 to T v(equation) dt. To work out the time to fall to 1200m ?

papertowns

  • Victorian
  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 35
  • Respect: 0
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2662 on: November 08, 2013, 07:55:23 pm »
0
Need help on spesh exam 2 q1e part ii :( the area of the shaded region :/

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/mathematics/2011specmath2-w.pdf

barydos

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 314
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Nossal High School
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2663 on: November 08, 2013, 08:47:38 pm »
+2
Hey guys,

for 2009 exam 2, Q5g) How come you can't do 1200 = integral from 0 to T v(equation) dt. To work out the time to fall to 1200m ?

From what I recall when I did this question, it didn't really work on my CAS calc either, but then i attempted to do integral from 180 (the time to reach roughly 880m) to T and let that integral = 1200 minus 880 (the exact value tho), and then i was able to solve for T, not sure why though.

Need help on spesh exam 2 q1e part ii :( the area of the shaded region :/

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/mathematics/2011specmath2-w.pdf

Have you tried to find the integral of the circle (make the y the subject, and choose the positive alternative)  (the circle hat was shifted to the right) from x=0 to x=1, then subtract the triangular area (the triangle with verticies (0,0) (1,1) and (1,0)), then multiply this region by 2 (because the area shaded is symmetrical about the y=x line.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 08:50:44 pm by Anonymiza »
2012: Methods [47] | Chinese SL [35]
2013: Specialist [48] | Chemistry [41] | Physics [44] | English Language [40]
ATAR: 99.55

brightsky

  • Victorian
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3136
  • Respect: +200
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2664 on: November 08, 2013, 08:57:34 pm »
+1
Need help on spesh exam 2 q1e part ii :( the area of the shaded region :/

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/mathematics/2011specmath2-w.pdf

let the area of a quarter of the circle with radius 1 be A, and the area of the shaded region be R.
A + A - R = 1 (forms a square with dimensions 1*1)
2A - R = 1
R = 2A - 1
now what is A?
easily found. pi*(1)^2/4 = pi/4
so R = pi/2 - 1

alternatively, you can use integration. this second technique will be a bit difficult if you did not have a calculator, but it's exam 2 so should be fine.
2020 - 2021: Master of Public Health, The University of Sydney
2017 - 2020: Doctor of Medicine, The University of Melbourne
2014 - 2016: Bachelor of Biomedicine, The University of Melbourne
2013 ATAR: 99.95

Currently selling copies of the VCE Chinese Exam Revision Book and UMEP Maths Exam Revision Book, and accepting students for Maths Methods and Specialist Maths Tutoring in 2020!

duhherro

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 424
  • Respect: +22
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2665 on: November 08, 2013, 10:22:51 pm »
0
could anyone help me on Q3 of 2009 exam 2, uhhh for part Q3)  what is the difference between time at 12 and time at 14, 14 hits the ground but 12 becomes a loop ?


And still need help on my previous question about the integrals of Q5)g) of 2009 :)

Thanks!

sin0001

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 487
  • Respect: +1
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2666 on: November 08, 2013, 10:31:59 pm »
0
could anyone help me on Q3 of 2009 exam 2, uhhh for part Q3)  what is the difference between time at 12 and time at 14, 14 hits the ground but 12 becomes a loop ?
Yea you've got the main idea there. As the child spirals downwards, it takes 12 seconds to complete a single turn; which can be found from the period of the 'i' and 'j' components. And the 'k' component represents the vertical height relative to the ground level- in other words, when the 'k' component equals 0 (at t=14s), the child is at the same height as the origin, so at the ground level.
ATAR: 99.00
Monash Commerce Scholars

Professor Polonsky

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1169
  • Respect: +118
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2667 on: November 09, 2013, 12:03:06 am »
0


(VCAA 2011 MC Q2)

nnl

  • Victorian
  • Fresh Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 4
  • Respect: 0
  • School: SC
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2668 on: November 09, 2013, 12:05:56 am »
0
get the asymptote equation for each, and if the gradient of each asymptote is not -1 and 1 then they're not perpendicular

SocialRhubarb

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 313
  • Respect: +34
  • School Grad Year: 2013
Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2669 on: November 09, 2013, 12:20:04 am »
+1
At a glance, I'd say it's E, as it's the only one where the coefficients of x^2 and y^2 are not 1.
Fight me.