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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3570 on: September 25, 2014, 08:31:24 pm »
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thanks for that. Could you also help with these questions b)ii and c ???
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« Reply #3571 on: September 25, 2014, 08:58:35 pm »
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bi)
the relevant circle theorem is that angle AOC is twice angle ABC (z) and since angle AOY is half angle AOC,

angle AOY = z

bii)
is angle AOY is z, what's length AY? it's a right angle triangle, so

sin(z)=AY/AO (soh-cah-toa)
AY = AO*sin(z)

AY is half of AC since it's an equilateral triangle and Y is halfway along the base

AC =2AOsin(z)

c)
we know that x + y + x = pi (180 degrees in a triangle)
thus z = pi - (x+y)
RHS = sin(z)
= sin( pi -(x+y) )
= sin( (x+y) ) by symmetry
= LHS

fairly confident in those answers, haven't studied circle rules since the start of 2013 though so i might have missed something
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3572 on: September 25, 2014, 09:17:21 pm »
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at what angle does the kite hit the ground?

please :)

P.S the ans is 24.1 degrees :)

i've attached what i did.. but its not the ans :(
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3573 on: September 25, 2014, 09:57:07 pm »
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At the component is , so you should have rather than for that side of the triangle as it is going from to for a change of .

Then you end up with
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3574 on: September 26, 2014, 06:29:48 pm »
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Hello, can I have some help with Q.21?
I understand that to find the initial speed, a calculation of |r(0)| is required.
I'm unsure why the answer for Q.21 is C.

Thanks.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3575 on: September 26, 2014, 07:43:55 pm »
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Hello, can I have some help with Q.21?
I understand that to find the initial speed, a calculation of |r(0)| is required.
I'm unsure why the answer for Q.21 is C.

Thanks.

First you have to derive the position vector to get the velocity vector (as this is what represents the direction of motion). You then have to sub into the velocity vector and find it's magnitude in order to find the unit vector.

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« Reply #3576 on: September 26, 2014, 08:34:43 pm »
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It seems straight forward, but i can't get an answer for this for some reason.
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« Reply #3577 on: September 26, 2014, 08:48:15 pm »
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Take the dot product of the two vectors, and solve the quadratic for p using the quadratic formula
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« Reply #3578 on: September 26, 2014, 11:00:16 pm »
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Is there a mistake in the solutions?

THe part where is says 20g= Tcos (theta), shouldn't it be 20g = Tsin(theta) especially when they are resolving in the vertical direction?
uhh do you have the full question?
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« Reply #3579 on: September 26, 2014, 11:03:03 pm »
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uhh do you have the full question?
Yeah that's the full question. First part is just label the forces acting on particle on diagram. By looking at that are answers wrong?

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« Reply #3580 on: September 26, 2014, 11:07:10 pm »
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Yeah that's the full question. First part is just label the forces acting on particle on diagram. By looking at that are answers wrong?
I mean, where did the sin theta come from and all that? Actually just tell me which paper this is from and I'll look at it.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3581 on: September 26, 2014, 11:29:07 pm »
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You have to infer yourself it's sin theta.... by separating the tension force in vertical and horizontal components yourself.

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EDIT: my bad. Realise I didn't attach the first part of the question properly. Awks
their answer is right, I can tell you that. I guess they defined theta differently to me but what I did:

cos(A)=1/4, taking A to be the angle between T and F
Drawing a triangle: we have tan(A)=sqrt(15)
tan(A)=20g/F=sqrt15
=>F/20g=1/sqrt(15)
=> F=20g/sqrt(15)=20g(sqrt(15))/15=4sqrt(15)/3
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3582 on: September 26, 2014, 11:35:07 pm »
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their answer is right, I can tell you that. I guess they defined theta differently to me but what I did:

cos(A)=1/4, taking A to be the angle between T and F
Drawing a triangle: we have tan(A)=sqrt(15)
tan(A)=20g/F=sqrt15
=>F/20g=1/sqrt(15)
=> F=20g/sqrt(15)=20g(sqrt(15))/15=4sqrt(15)/3

Oh, I realise what I did wrong, I assumed theta to be at the wrong place (between the 2m and 0.5m) so it appeared to me they had sin and cos the wrong way around. But yeah, I understand why  theta should be at the other angle.  Damn, sneaky question.

Thanks for your help (lol sorry for derping up with the attachments)!
 

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3583 on: September 27, 2014, 04:45:48 pm »
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For questions that say show that these three vectors are linearly independent

Is showing that they aren't linearly dependent sufficient?

like m(vector a) + n(vector b) = (vector c)

then simultaneous solve?

Or
 m(vector a) + n(vector b) + p (vector c) = 0i + 0j + 0k

 should show that all components (m,n.p)  equal zero?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3584 on: September 27, 2014, 05:25:32 pm »
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for part a) can someone please explain the solutions?

Why are we finding the perpendidular and the parallel parts and then the hypotenuse? between the two?