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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4095 on: December 16, 2014, 09:39:00 pm »
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Hey, can some one help with this, im not 100% sure about this:


How can you factor this expression by grouping:


Also, is there any other method of solving this? Bloody hell though, these exam questions are so much different to the textbook ones.... pisses me off :/
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4096 on: December 16, 2014, 10:05:42 pm »
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Hey, can some one help with this, im not 100% sure about this:


How can you factor this expression by grouping:


Also, is there any other method of solving this? Bloody hell though, these exam questions are so much different to the textbook ones.... pisses me off :/

Well - to me, it looks like there's a z - sqrt(5) + i in both of those:


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« Reply #4097 on: December 16, 2014, 10:08:04 pm »
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Well - to me, it looks like there's a z - sqrt(5) + i in both of those:



omg man cant believe i didnt see that........ i need to rest, at least you wont have to answer any of my questions.
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« Reply #4098 on: December 17, 2014, 10:03:32 am »
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Can someone show me how to solve this by the quadratic formula, or maybe complete the square?

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« Reply #4099 on: December 17, 2014, 10:40:50 am »
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Can someone show me how to solve this by the quadratic formula, or maybe complete the square?



I think the best way to solve this equation is to use the Cartesian method.

Let z = x + yi.
(x + yi)^2 = 8 + 15i
(x^2 - y^2) + 2xyi = 8 + 15i

Equating coefficients:
x^2 - y^2 = 8...(1)
2xy = 15...(2)

Solving (1) and (2) simultaneously yields: (x,y) = (-5sqrt(2)/2, -3sqrt(2)/2) or (5sqrt(2)/2, 3sqrt(2)/2).

Hence, z = -5sqrt(2)/2 - 3sqrt(2)/2 i or z = 5sqrt(2)/2 + 3sqrt(2)/2 i.
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« Reply #4100 on: December 17, 2014, 10:53:27 am »
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Thank you so much brightsky. Is it possible however, to solve it through the polar form instead of cartesian, because theta would become a decimal?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4101 on: December 17, 2014, 12:16:23 pm »
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Let w = 1 + ai where a is a real constant.
Show that | w^2 | = (1+ a^2 )^3/2 .


Umm..... totally blank on this question, would appreciate if someone could shed some light :)

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« Reply #4102 on: December 17, 2014, 02:23:42 pm »
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Thank you so much brightsky. Is it possible however, to solve it through the polar form instead of cartesian, because theta would become a decimal?

It is possible, but not advised. As you rightly mentioned, the argument is not a nice number, and so the working out might be a little messy.

Let w = 1 + ai where a is a real constant.
Show that | w^2 | = (1+ a^2 )^3/2 .


Umm..... totally blank on this question, would appreciate if someone could shed some light :)

I think there is something wrong with the question. The equation that you are required to prove only holds if a = 0.

w = 1 + ai
w^2 = (1+ai)^2 = 1 + 2ai - a^2 = (1-a^2) + 2ai
|w^2|
= sqrt[(1-a^2)^2 + (2a)^2]
= sqrt(1 - 2a^2 + a^4 + 4a^2)
= sqrt(1 + 2a^2 + a^4)
= sqrt[(1+a^2)^2]
= 1 + a^2 (as 1 + a^2 is always greater than 0)

The equation would hold for all a if you meant to write | w^3 | = (1+ a^2 )^3/2.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4103 on: December 17, 2014, 06:46:59 pm »
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Thanks brightsky, i thought there was something wrong with it

= sqrt(1 + 2a^2 + a^4)
= sqrt[(1+a^2)^2]

Can you explain please how the top one became the second one? Thanks
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« Reply #4104 on: December 17, 2014, 06:59:46 pm »
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Thanks brightsky, i thought there was something wrong with it

= sqrt(1 + 2a^2 + a^4)
= sqrt[(1+a^2)^2]

Can you explain please how the top one became the second one? Thanks



Let

So

A nice quadratic, factorize as normal.



Substitute a back into the expression.




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« Reply #4105 on: December 17, 2014, 08:26:07 pm »
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On an Argand diagram, O is the origin and P represents the point 3 + i. The point Q represents a + bi, where a and b are both positive. If triangle OPQ is equilateral, find a and b.

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« Reply #4106 on: December 17, 2014, 08:31:54 pm »
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just to confirm, you can only plot points that are in cartesian form, not polar, correct?

how do i transform this to cartesian and then plot

z = cis (pi/8)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4107 on: December 17, 2014, 09:05:50 pm »
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On an Argand diagram, O is the origin and P represents the point 3 + i. The point Q represents a + bi, where a and b are both positive. If triangle OPQ is equilateral, find a and b.

Please anyone!

If we have an equilateral triangle, all sides must be equal length. Since two of the sides are the mod of the two complex numbers, we have:



Of course, we need another equation - so, we consider the last length, :



Now, we just need to solve the two simultaneously:



just to confirm, you can only plot points that are in cartesian form, not polar, correct?

how do i transform this to cartesian and then plot

z = cis (pi/8)

Of course you can! Check here for an explanation on how to plot points in polar.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4108 on: December 17, 2014, 09:12:21 pm »
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just to confirm, you can only plot points that are in cartesian form, not polar, correct?

how do i transform this to cartesian and then plot

z = cis (pi/8)

Well actually you can. Z=cis(pi/8) tells you that the point has a magnitude of one, and is at an angle of pi/8 counterclockwise from the positive direction of the x-axis. Except when we try to plot it on the graph it's hard to figure out just from that what its coordinates are, which is why we tend to convert to cartesian form.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #4109 on: December 17, 2014, 09:24:43 pm »
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Well actually you can. Z=cis(pi/8) tells you that the point has a magnitude of one, and is at an angle of pi/8 counterclockwise from the positive direction of the x-axis. Except when we try to plot it on the graph it's hard to figure out just from that what its coordinates are, which is why we tend to convert to cartesian form.

But it would be totally okay if the value of Arg(z) was an exact value, right? :)
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