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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9135 on: January 02, 2018, 05:58:03 pm »
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Quick question:
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In triangle OAB, OA=3i+4k and OB=i+2j-2k
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Find OP where P is:
the point where the bisector of angle AOB intersects AB

And another question; can you find the intersection of two vectors by equating them?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9136 on: January 02, 2018, 07:16:08 pm »
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Quick question:
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In triangle OAB, OA=3i+4k and OB=i+2j-2k
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Find OP where P is:
the point where the bisector of angle AOB intersects AB
Find the unit vectors for OA and OB, and then add them up. This will give a vector that is in the direction of OP.

Now, how do we find out the length of OP? I'll let you have a go at this yourself. Hint: roughly draw out the triangle, with points O, A, B and P. Think vector projection/resolution.

Post if you get stuck :)

And another question; can you find the intersection of two vectors by equating them?

Thanks
Remember that in general, vectors can move freely in space. So, they cannot have a unique intersection.


Hope this helps :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9137 on: January 03, 2018, 10:32:02 pm »
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With regard to finding the intersection of two vectors, I should add that if the vectors you are considering are bound vectors, rather than free vectors, then the general method used is to find two different pathways from the start of one of the vectors to the point of intersection, and then to solve for the unknowns by equating the two different pathways. I'll illustrate using an example.

Consider the triangle OAB. Let P be the midpoint of the line segment OA, and Q be the midpoint of the line segment AB. The line segment PB and the line segment OQ will therefore be medians of the triangle OAB. Suppose PB and OQ intersect at the point X. Let OA = a, and OB = b. Our aim is to find OX in terms of a and b. We shall do this by constructing two different pathways from the point O to the point X.

The most direct pathway from O to X is obtained by noticing that OX is a scalar multiple of OQ; that is, OX = κ OQ = κ (a + 1/2 AB) = κ (a + 1/2 (b - a)) = κ (1/2 a + 1/2 b) = κ/2 a + κ/2 b.

A second pathway from O to X is obtained by first travelling from O to B, and then from B to X; that is, OX = b + BX = b + λ BP = b + λ (1/2 a - b) = b + λ/2 a - λ b = λ/2 a + (1 - λ)b.

Now, because both pathways start from O and end at X, we can say:

κ/2 a + κ/2 b = λ/2 a + (1 - λ)b

In other words:

κ/2 = λ/2
κ/2 = 1 - λ

From the two equations above, we can conclude that κ = 2/3 and λ = 2/3. Hence, OX = 1/3 a + 1/3 b.

Hope this helps!

P.S. Note that we have just proven that the centroid of a triangle divides each median into segments in a ratio of 2:1. This is the first step to proving that the three medians of a triangle are concurrent.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9138 on: January 05, 2018, 12:41:36 pm »
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Need help with complex numbers
1) show that sin(theta) + icos(theta) = cis(pi/2 - theta)
2) show that cos(theta) - isin(theta) = cis(-theta)
3) show that sin (theta) - icos (theta) = cis (theta-pi/2)
Can someone explain this and show how to do it
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9139 on: January 05, 2018, 01:08:48 pm »
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First, recall the definition of cofunction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofunction. Given that sine and cosine are cofunctions of each other, sin(theta) = cos(pi/2 - theta) and cos(theta) = sin(pi/2 - theta).

For the first question:

sin(theta) + i cos(theta) = cos(pi/2 - theta) + i sin(pi/2 - theta) = cis (pi/2 - theta), as required. Note that here all we've used is the definition of cofunction.

For the second question:

cos(theta) - i sin(theta) = cos(-theta) + i sin(-theta) = cis(-theta), as required. Note that here we've used the symmetry properties cos(-theta) = cos(theta) (since cosine is positive in the 4th quadrant) and sin(-theta) = -sin(theta) (since sine is negative in the 4th quadrant).

For the third question:

sin(theta) - i cos(theta) = cos(pi/2 - theta) - i sin(pi/2 - theta) = cos(theta - pi/2) + i sin(theta - pi/2) = cis(theta - pi/2), as required. Note that here we've used both the definition of cofunction, and the symmetry properties cos(-something) = cos(something) and sin(-something) = -sin(something).

Note that the concept of cofunctions can be extrapolated to other circular functions as well. Just by looking at the names, we can see that cosine and sine are cofunctions of each other; cotangent and tangent are cofunctions of each other; and cosecant and secant are cofunctions of each other.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9140 on: January 05, 2018, 01:11:16 pm »
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Need help with complex numbers
1) show that sin(theta) + icos(theta) = cis(pi/2 - theta)
2) show that cos(theta) - isin(theta) = cis(-theta)
3) show that sin (theta) - icos (theta) = cis (theta-pi/2)
Can someone explain this and show how to do it
thanks.
For the second one, just expand our cis(-t):
Cos(-t)+isin(-t)=cos(t)-isin(t)
This works because cos(-t) = cos(t), and sin(-t) = -sin(t)

I'll get back to you about the other two

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9141 on: January 05, 2018, 07:49:19 pm »
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Thanks ! Got it
Also how do I convert to mod arg form
1+i tan theta
i get the mod but whats the arg
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9142 on: January 05, 2018, 08:09:39 pm »
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Thanks ! Got it
Also how do I convert to mod arg form
1+i tan theta

When calculating the argument, be sure to do a quick sketch of your complex number on an Argand diagram to check you have selected the right angle
Knowing this, have a go at converting 1+i to modulus/argument form. Post if you get stuck :)

EDIT: Just saw your edit - think I misread your question.


Hope this helps :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9143 on: January 05, 2018, 08:57:56 pm »
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When calculating the argument, be sure to
do a quick sketch of your complex number on an Argand diagram to check you have selected the right angle

Knowing this, have a go at converting 1+i to modulus/argument form. Post if you get
stuck :)


Got it was just a bit confused with the arctan(tan(x))
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9144 on: January 05, 2018, 09:05:55 pm »
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Got it was just a bit confused with the arctan(tan(x))
Cheers
Apologies - seems I misread your question, but I've edited by original comment (copy-pasted the edit below).

EDIT: Just saw your edit - think I misread your question.


Hope this helps :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9145 on: January 06, 2018, 04:21:16 pm »
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Hi, this is very related to Onyx's previous question.

How do you convert 1+icot(x) to polar form?
It is easy enough to find the modulus:
Mod=sqrt(1+cot2x)=sqrt(cosec2x)=cosecx
But as for the argument..
arg=arctan(cotx)...
but now what? I dug deep into Wikipedia to find that arctan(1/x)=Pi/2-arctan(x), which will allow the argument to be found relatively easily, but I'm not sure how else to find the argument without using Wikipedia.. and I don't understand where Wikipedia formula comes from?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9146 on: January 06, 2018, 07:47:22 pm »
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tan and cot are cofunctions of each other. Hence, arctan (cot (x)) = arctan (tan (pi/2 -x)) = pi/2 -x.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9147 on: January 06, 2018, 07:57:26 pm »
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tan and cot are cofunctions of each other. Hence, arctan (cot (x)) = arctan (tan (pi/2 -x)) = pi/2 -x.
Thanks :)
How did you know to subtract x from Pi/2 rather than add x or subtract Pi/2, etc?

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« Reply #9148 on: January 06, 2018, 08:07:21 pm »
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Thanks :)
How did you know to subtract x from Pi/2 rather than add x or subtract Pi/2, etc?


From the definition of cofunction.

We call f(x) and g(x) cofunctions of each other if f(pi/2 - x) = g(x) and g(pi/2 - x) = f(x).

From their names, we know tan and cot are cofunctions of each other, which means cot(pi/2 - x) = tan(x) and tan(pi/2 - x) = cot(x). The same applies to sin and cos, and sec and cosec.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #9149 on: January 06, 2018, 08:10:37 pm »
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Thanks :)
How did you know to subtract x from Pi/2 rather than add x or subtract Pi/2, etc?


Adding on to brightsky, if you didn't know the two were cofunctions but did know they were related by a transformation (you can also do this with sin and cos, or sec and csc) you can also do it by imagining what the graph of tan(x) looks like compared to tan(x+pi/2), tan(x-pi/2), etc. If the graphs look the same, at this level you can just assume that they're equivalent.