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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1425 on: March 14, 2013, 06:33:14 pm »
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Factorising that by hand is a very tough ask. Not realistic imo.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1426 on: March 14, 2013, 06:39:30 pm »
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How else would you factorise that without factorising it?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1427 on: March 14, 2013, 06:42:36 pm »
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How else would you factorise that without factorising it?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1428 on: March 14, 2013, 06:44:52 pm »
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Yeah but the original question was to do it WITHOUT calc
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1429 on: March 14, 2013, 06:45:46 pm »
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Factorising that by hand is a very tough ask. Not realistic imo.

this! It's very unlikely that this would ever crop up on a SAC or the exam.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1430 on: March 14, 2013, 06:47:13 pm »
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Yeah i know that. Was just curious to know if there was another way.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1431 on: March 14, 2013, 06:48:43 pm »
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Right, sorry! My bad  :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1432 on: March 14, 2013, 06:58:35 pm »
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this! It's very unlikely that this would ever crop up on a SAC or the exam.

This was the question in my SAC actually - that is why I am wondering how to do it?

@Hatersgonnahate: it has 4 complex solutions, so substituting in a real number for x in the hope that the equation will equal 0 is not an option unfortunately.

It is unrealistic I suppose, but I was asked to algebraically determine the answer. Can anyone do this at all, otherwise I'll admit defeat?

Thanks for the replies  :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1433 on: March 14, 2013, 07:21:49 pm »
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I've also got something else that's been nagging me:

c(x) = q(x)

where c(x) has factor x2 - 28x + 207
and q(x) has factor x2 - 28x + 207

If I do...

c(x) - q(x) = 0 does that mean that    c(x) - q(x)    has factor x2 - 28x + 207 ?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1434 on: March 14, 2013, 10:52:05 pm »
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I've also got something else that's been nagging me:

c(x) = q(x)

where c(x) has factor x2 - 28x + 207
and q(x) has factor x2 - 28x + 207

If I do...

c(x) - q(x) = 0 does that mean that    c(x) - q(x)    has factor x2 - 28x + 207 ?


have you noticed that if you divide x^2 -28x + 207 into the quartic polynomial of a few posts ago by polynomial division, the result is,

x^4 - 9x^3 - 175x^2 - 267x + 31050 = (x^2 -28x + 207)(x^2 +19x + 150)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1435 on: March 14, 2013, 10:59:30 pm »
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have you noticed that if you divide x^2 -28x + 207 into the quartic polynomial of a few posts ago by polynomial division, the result is,

x^4 - 9x^3 - 175x^2 - 267x + 31050 = (x^2 -28x + 207)(x^2 +19x + 150)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1436 on: March 15, 2013, 04:37:04 pm »
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can someone please help me with this question. i have attached a photo.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1438 on: March 15, 2013, 08:53:19 pm »
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Hey, in the essentials text, there's a question which asks to differentiate y=arcos(3/x) where x>3. what is the significance of the "x>3"? doesnt that exceed the domain the function anyway?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1439 on: March 15, 2013, 09:05:08 pm »
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is undefined over the domain .

As the function has a minimum value of and a maximum value of this means the minimum value of the can be put into the function is and the maximum value is (simplicticly, the range of is therefore the domain of its inverse ,, will be

Therefore the domain is represented as





Meaning the domain of the function   is:

and
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