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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1950 on: July 10, 2013, 09:45:15 pm »
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If in doubt, don't do that, because we're talking VCE where anything outside the course will be harshly penalized if one step is wrong.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1951 on: July 11, 2013, 10:49:19 pm »
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{z:|z-2i|=1} find the exact maximum and minimum values of Arg(z)

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« Reply #1952 on: July 11, 2013, 10:53:35 pm »
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{z:|z-2i|=1} find the exact maximum and minimum values of Arg(z)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1953 on: July 11, 2013, 10:56:59 pm »
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hmm i tried, but i cant understand, is there a different way to approach this question?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1954 on: July 11, 2013, 11:02:54 pm »
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So let's rephrase the question.We have a circle x^2+(y-2)^2=1
Arg(z) is really asking for arctan(m) where m is the line from the origin to any point (Re(z),Im(z)) on the circle.
What are the extreme points? If you use some geometric intuition, these points occur where a line from the origin is a tangent to the circle. Find these points. Then find the gradients of these lines. You should then be able to work out Arg z from these gradients.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1955 on: July 12, 2013, 10:12:24 am »
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Find these points.

could someone help me do that

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« Reply #1956 on: July 12, 2013, 11:29:49 am »
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x^2 + (y-2)^2 = 1
Intersects with y = kx
so x^2 + (kx-2)^2 = 1
x^2(k^2 + 1) - 4kx + 4 = 1
x^2(k^2+1) - 4kx + 3 = 0
We want a tangent, so only one intersection point  for a given k. Discriminant = 0
16k^2 - 4*(k^2 + 1) * 3 = 0
16k^2 - 12k^2 - 12 = 0
k^2 = 3
k=+-sqrt(3)
so from this, solve for x
and hence y
You'll have your xy coordinates and then you can convert that to Arg z values.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1957 on: July 12, 2013, 11:44:05 am »
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{z:|z-2i|=1} find the exact maximum and minimum values of Arg(z)
could someone help me do that

Well, personally I can see two methods, algebraic and geometric, but there may be more.

Algebric (long way)
As nliu1995 pointed out before, we have a circle


Now, the ray Arg(z) can be represented by the Cartesian line:


Personally, I like diagrams to help illustrate the point:


Note that wolfram alpha has not drawn the y-axis at x=0.

So clearly we want to find the values of m where there is only one point of intersection:
Working



Geometric (short, easy way I prefer)
Again, we begin with a diagram:



This is a purely geometric way of solving


Clearly the two methods give the same result.



Note, we can also use the geometric method on harder questions, for example:
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{z:|z+1-2i|=1} find the exact maximum and minimum values of Arg(z)
What would we do? Firstly we draw a diagram:


Then repeat the same process :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1958 on: July 12, 2013, 02:08:12 pm »
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Could someone please verify these answers? I dont have the solutions :(

where

1) Find the co-ordinated of the maximum turning point of the graph of g and use the second derivative to verify its nature.

What I got: (2,0.5)=maximum turning point since g'(2)=0 and g''(2) is negative

2) Find the co-ordinates of the point of inflection of the graph of g. Give your answers correct to two decimal places.

What I got: (-3.76,-0.15) (0.69,0.22) (3.06,0.42)

3) The region enclosed by the graph of g and the straight line with equation is rotated 360degrees about the x-axis to form a solid of revolution. Find, correct to two decimal places, the volume of the resulting solid.

What I got: 0.22 (Dont think thats right though :s)


 THANKS :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1959 on: July 12, 2013, 08:26:45 pm »
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Has anyone else done any of the Extended Response questions in Checkpoints, relating to Calculus?
I just want to know if I'm the only one finding them quite challenging  :-\
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« Reply #1960 on: July 12, 2013, 08:30:08 pm »
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Has anyone else done any of the Extended Response questions in Checkpoints, relating to Calculus?
I just want to know if I'm the only one finding them quite challenging  :-\

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Depends what Checkpoints. I did the 2011 one (much, much more qs than the 2013 one).

It was okay, but that's just a personal opinion. remember you're asking an educational forum :P
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« Reply #1961 on: July 12, 2013, 08:32:09 pm »
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HI JEGGZ!

Depends what Checkpoints. I did the 2011 one (much, much more qs than the 2013 one).

It was okay, but that's just a personal opinion. remember you're asking an educational forum :P

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1962 on: July 13, 2013, 04:21:25 pm »
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Could someone please verify these answers? I dont have the solutions :(

where

1) Find the co-ordinated of the maximum turning point of the graph of g and use the second derivative to verify its nature.

What I got: (2,0.5)=maximum turning point since g'(2)=0 and g''(2) is negative

2) Find the co-ordinates of the point of inflection of the graph of g. Give your answers correct to two decimal places.

What I got: (-3.76,-0.15) (0.69,0.22) (3.06,0.42)

3) The region enclosed by the graph of g and the straight line with equation is rotated 360degrees about the x-axis to form a solid of revolution. Find, correct to two decimal places, the volume of the resulting solid.

What I got: 0.22 (Dont think thats right though :s)


 THANKS :)


anyone?
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« Reply #1963 on: July 13, 2013, 04:51:31 pm »
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You might want to check your domain restriction for part b :P
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« Reply #1964 on: July 13, 2013, 06:49:49 pm »
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You might want to check your domain restriction for part b :P

oh yeahhh, thanks B^3. is 3) right?
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