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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3435 on: August 16, 2014, 07:32:49 pm »
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Hello!

I have a differentiation question that I would really appreciate help with.
Why is that we don't use the chain rule for q.3.ii. so that the derivative is x(ln(x))2 is (ln(x))2 + (2(ln(x)))/x ?
Find below a screenshot of chapter 8 review question 3 (ER) in the essentials textbook.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3436 on: August 16, 2014, 07:39:14 pm »
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You DO do that, but remember the product rule. For this case, we'll let u=x and v=(ln(x))^2. From this, we get:


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3437 on: August 16, 2014, 07:48:43 pm »
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Oh dear, thanks for pointing that out :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3438 on: August 17, 2014, 11:48:53 pm »
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Ah that makes much more sense (but damn these polar graphs LOL) T_T
Thanks lzxnl and EulerFan101 :)

Polar graphs aren't even on the Spesh course...why bother?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3439 on: August 18, 2014, 07:31:27 pm »
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Hello!

I'm having trouble understanding the third line of these solutions.
Can I please have an explanation for this?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3440 on: August 18, 2014, 07:40:50 pm »
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I'm having trouble understanding the third line of these solutions.
Can I please have an explanation for this?

Difference of two squares:



so therefore:


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3441 on: August 18, 2014, 07:56:26 pm »
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Polar graphs aren't even on the Spesh course...why bother?
Just to understand the fundamentals and to see where everything is coming from I guess rather than learning about "What's going to be on the exam etc." It's just some light work (nothing serious really) :P

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« Reply #3442 on: August 18, 2014, 08:10:40 pm »
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Just to understand the fundamentals and to see where everything is coming from I guess rather than learning about "What's going to be on the exam etc." It's just some light work (nothing serious really) :P
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3443 on: August 21, 2014, 02:15:14 pm »
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i have a surface area of a revolution question:
i know its not apart of the study design but my teacher has decided to teach us for a SAC

if the region enclosed by the eclipse (x^2/a^2) + (y^2/b^2) = 1 is revolved around the x axis, find the resulting area of te resulting football shape solid
NOTE there are two cases: when a>b and b>a

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« Reply #3444 on: August 21, 2014, 08:02:02 pm »
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2 questions please:

 Show that dN/dt = (k-c*N)*N can be expressed as N=k/(B*e^(-k*t)-c

And

Patient is given a drug at 200mg /kg of tissue: drug leaves the body at a rate proportional to x ( the amount of drug)
Find dx/dt (where x is amount of drug) basically set up differential equation

Then: if after 30 mins there is 50% of drug remaining solve differential equation

And finally: how long does it take for 10 percent of drug to remain

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3445 on: August 21, 2014, 10:20:17 pm »
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"A bullet is fired vertically upwards, ignoring any air resistance, at a speed of 98ms^-1 and three seconds later a second bullet is fired vertically upwards from the same point with the same speed".
Find how long it takes after the first bullet is shot that the two bullets meet.
Answer: 11.50 seconds.
Can anyone show me how to get there?
First Bullet:


Second Bullet (this bullet is fired three seconds after, so we use t-3):


We want the bullets to be at the same point, which means that their x value is the same, so we can equate them:

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3446 on: August 21, 2014, 10:21:22 pm »
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Ok not sure what I have done wrong. Question also seems simple enough...

"A bullet is fired vertically upwards, ignoring any air resistance, at a speed of 98ms^-1 and three seconds later a second bullet is fired vertically upwards from the same point with the same speed".

Find how long it takes after the first bullet is shot that the two bullets meet.

Answer: 11.50 seconds.

Can anyone show me how to get there?

Let up be positive. Let t be the time after the first bullet is shot.
Position of the first bullet: ut + 1/2 at^2 = 98t - 4.9t^2
Position of the second bullet: u(t-3) + 1/2 a(t-3)^2 = 98(t-3) - 4.9(t-3)^2
Meet => positions are the same
98(t-3) - 4.9(t-3)^2 = 98t - 4.9t^2
20t - 60 - (t^2 - 6t + 9) = 20t - t^2
-60 + 6t - 9 = 0
6t = 69
t = 11.5 s
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3447 on: August 22, 2014, 06:44:33 pm »
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Thanks for the reply, I realise my mistake, I put (t+3) instead of (t-3). Can anyone explain why it's minus three? Bullet two is fired three seconds after, so i thought it was intuitive that its minus 3?

Think about it. Three seconds after the first bullet is fired, which is t = 3, we have the second bullet fired
Let the time after the firing of the second bullet be u. Then, we know t and u are always a constant apart (time runs at the same rate)
Also, we know that when t = 3, u = 0
Hence, u = t-3
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3448 on: August 22, 2014, 07:20:46 pm »
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Thanks for the reply, I realise my mistake, I put (t+3) instead of (t-3). Can anyone explain why it's minus three? Bullet two is fired three seconds after, so i thought it was intuitive that its minus 3?

We can also put it this way:

If you plot the graph of path of the first bullet (x=ut+1/2at^2), it is gonna be a parabola starting at origin (t=0). And the second bullet should have the same shape of path, but it starts at t=3, which means the graph you plotted has been translated 3 units in positive x-axis. So its equation looks like x=u(t-3)+1/2a(t-3)^2.
You might know that the "-3" means that the second bullet doesnt start at the origin, it starts at t=3.

Hope that makes sense:)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #3449 on: August 24, 2014, 05:08:48 pm »
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how would i do part c)

please and thanks