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Re: Weight training
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 10:25:52 am »
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Lol about 4.  One kid in yr 10 does 100 too lol, 
But they've been training for ages,  like since they were kids! But like I said,  they can't squat much or Deadlift much. 
Also out of them all,  only 2 are ripped,  ones fat and another's just bulked.
But if you YouTube like 16 or 17 year old bench press you'll find some freaks!

I started October last year

Dohertys gym woo :p

And yeah taiga,  machines are weird hahah,  I've been trying shoulder press machine for about 4 weeks now,  went from 50 to 75!  But there's no way I could do that freeweight.
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 11:37:44 am »
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Yes!! So glad a thread like this has been started up haha, thanks Bhootnike :)

Wow benching 100kg free-weight in year 11... I only do 60kg of 5 reps :P
I go really light on deadlifts because my lower back has constant problems, do you reckon it would be bad to go heavier?

In my opinion you can cut by just having the right diet, but if your a teenager I don' think keto is too good because our bodies are still developing. Personally I just eat alot of clean foods. So breakfast might be eggs, weet-bix and a bowl of vegies. And throughout the day; chicken sandwich, fruit, nuts, tuna cans, lean meats, cottage cheese (at night for casein) and protein supplements. I try and avoid processed foods as much as possible.
By the way what supplements are you guys using if any? I'm using ON 100% Gold Standard Whey for post-work out. A lot of my friends are using pre-workouts and creatine etc but I'll use those after VCE (Friend had jack3d and his sleeping patterns were wrecked :P)

So are you guys doing if for the aesthetics or strength?
"It's not how big you are, it's how good you look" :P
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@taiga   Yeah I use that every holidays! They have awesome equipment and my friends mum is part of the staff there so she helps us out. Also do you have a profile on bb.com? I just lurk it, mainly misc haha

@jane1234   Haha don't worry about getting too muscly, no matter how hard you train it is highly unlikely that you would pack on muscle to the point where it's grotesque. Those girls are on dat dere celltech
As for exercises go to this link ( http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/ ), select a body part, then down the left de-select everything except bodyweight.
Here is a picture related, that I found on Tony Frolly's fb page (CEO of Simply Shredded)     http://i.imgur.com/pPmtD.jpg
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2011, 11:58:44 am »
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Yes!! So glad a thread like this has been started up haha, thanks Bhootnike :)

Wow benching 100kg free-weight in year 11... I only do 60kg of 5 reps :P
I go really light on deadlifts because my lower back has constant problems, do you reckon it would be bad to go heavier?

In my opinion you can cut by just having the right diet, but if your a teenager I don' think keto is too good because our bodies are still developing. Personally I just eat alot of clean foods. So breakfast might be eggs, weet-bix and a bowl of vegies. And throughout the day; chicken sandwich, fruit, nuts, tuna cans, lean meats, cottage cheese (at night for casein) and protein supplements. I try and avoid processed foods as much as possible.
By the way what supplements are you guys using if any? I'm using ON 100% Gold Standard Whey for post-work out. A lot of my friends are using pre-workouts and creatine etc but I'll use those after VCE (Friend had jack3d and his sleeping patterns were wrecked :P)

So are you guys doing if for the aesthetics or strength?
"It's not how big you are, it's how good you look" :P
Who is aware of zyzz?

@taiga   Yeah I use that every holidays! They have awesome equipment and my friends mum is part of the staff there so she helps us out. Also do you have a profile on bb.com? I just lurk it, mainly misc haha

@jane1234   Haha don't worry about getting too muscly, no matter how hard you train it is highly unlikely that you would pack on muscle to the point where it's grotesque. Those girls are on dat dere celltech
As for exercises go to this link ( http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/ ), select a body part, then down the left de-select everything except bodyweight.
Here is a picture related, that I found on Tony Frolly's fb page (CEO of Simply Shredded)     http://i.imgur.com/pPmtD.jpg

No worries,  good to see so many people who participate in this! And don't worry,  you'll get there :)

Regarding Deadlift,  as long as you have proper form you should be good.  But if you have an injury take it easy.  No point in further injury!
Proper form is crucial to freeweight exercise.  You can cause serious injuries by not lifting property.  Classic case in Deadlift is when you hyperextend your back on the completion of a rep,  or if you don't bend your knees and stick your bum out.
Ask an experienced personal or a pt for assessing your form :)

Protein wise,  yeah i use gold standard :)  really good stuff!  Used international protein but gold standard has given me great gains! I drink milk daily and eat eggs and lentils daily too. But my daily protein intake is like 100 g,  should be 180!  So im looking into having a shake morning and afternoon for non training days,  and morning +  post workout on training days. 
If I get my hands on ON caesium ill use that for night.
I don't think creatine is suggested for use by minors,  so I don't use it.  If anything I use international amino recovery whilst I'm training. 
Jack3d is meant for 18+ haha,  and apparently it just gives you a big kick.

I bulked for muscle and strength,  now I want to cut and maintain muscle for aesthetics and strength!
Zyzz?  Nup


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Re: Weight training
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2011, 12:50:13 pm »
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how the hell can you bench 80... i only do 50 max :( on the up side I only weight 55kg so I don't have to do much cardio :P
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2011, 01:41:01 pm »
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Cheers guys for the replies, and Hutchoo I can't believe you got such an accurate picture of me! ;)

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Re: Weight training
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2011, 02:29:38 pm »
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This is what I do:

Monday:
pec deck 15x4
Flat bench BB 12x3
Incline DB press 12x3
Dips (assisted) 15x3
Triceps Pushdowns 12x3
Overhead triceps extension 8-10 x 3

8pm - go for a run (NOT ON A TREADMILL!!!!!!!)

Tuesday:
DB incline lateral raise 12x4
DB shoulder press 12x3
Rear Raises 12x3
front raises 12x3
shrugs 15x4

Wednesday:
Cardio/abs

Thursday:
Leg Extension 15x4
squats 12x3
Incline Leg press 12x4
Leg curls 12x3
Calf raises on Leg Press 15-20 x 3
Seated Calf Raises 12x3

Friday:
1 set pull ups, 1 set chin ups, 1 set lat pull down
one arm row 12x3
seated row 12x3
machine pull overs 10-12x3
Biceps BB curls 12x3
2 sets DB curls, 1 set Cable curls with drop sets.

Weekend - rest!


But Its SUPERRRRRRR IMPORTANT to eat right! this is my usual eating plan:

breakfast (9am) : Coffee + low fat milk + 1 tb of carnitine + cinnamon.

train: 10am-11am (roughly)

get home at 11.30, half cup of oats + water, microwaved, AFTER YOU MICROWAVE IT, put in your protein powder (I like Horley's ripped factors, keeps me slim =] ). If you put the protein in before you microwave it, you'll destroy it (you cant cook whey protein).

2pm: 200g of tuna + vegetables (especially broccoli) + 1 whole egg and 2 whites

5pm: 200g of tuna + half a cup of rice + veggies + 1 egg and 2 whites

7-8 ish: Go for my cardio (if i feel like it)

8.30: 1 cup of yoghurt or some type of white meat

10pm: RED MEAT (takes ages to digest, and require energy to digest, so red meat at night helps you burn calories during a time which would otherwise be very low energy usage)

Go to sleep, and repeat.


EDIT: rest between sets = 2mins, with the exception of squats/leg press, 3 mins for these big ones :)
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2011, 02:30:35 pm »
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Oh and i forgot to say that I dont count my weight, but its significantly less than what you guys are posting. but its because of the technique, if i forced the same technique onto you guys, im quite sure that the weight you lift would be seriously cut down...

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Re: Weight training
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2011, 04:37:30 pm »
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Yeah hopefully :P

The guys that do 100, is their form correct? A lot of people tend to arch their back during the rep which enables heavier weights to be lifted but it's bad for the back.

Gold Standard is great value for money, i get 5lbs for $85 which is decent, I've seen it at GNC for way higher. Seriously guys if you are buying supplements don't go to GNC, they rip you off so bad.
Did you use the ammino charged WPI? Looks pretty decent, why did you switch?
I only use protein supplements at the moment, I might explore glutamines, recovery supps etc after school.

And zyzz was king of aesthetics, he's dead now, partly because of anabolics. check his fb page out and just youtube him haha

Pretty sure you are supposed to arch your back.
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2011, 04:43:10 pm »
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if you guys looking for a good routine/program, give p90x a shot
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2011, 04:45:44 pm »
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if you guys looking for a good routine/program, give p90x a shot

Basic compound workouts + light cardio are better than p90x

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Re: Weight training
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2011, 04:49:55 pm »
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btw if you're born 1993 or later and don't currently have a gym membership

http://www.fitnessfirst.com.au/community/ffit/holidays
They don't check for legitimacy. as long as you don't have a full grown moustache, you should be fine. Give a fake name if you've been going to one FF too often. Though FF is a bit shit weights-wise
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2011, 04:55:48 pm »
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You niggas have some ridiculous squats. Here's the most I've done on the big 4

Squat: 80
Bench: 80
Deadlift: 120 (Done 130 but ridiculously shit form)
OHP: 50

Still working on Power Cleans. Not sure if getting the technique right
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2011, 04:59:55 pm »
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For cardio how does everyone feel about running? In particular the Couch to 5k program? I've just finished week 3 and I'm getting started with a weight program that I've adapted from one off of bb.com, if I keep up with it hopefully I'll see some results in the next month or two.

Any sort of cardio would be great and running is good. 5km is too much, if you want to perserve your hard earned Muscle mass. Do Cardios that are like a 45 minute brisk walk or a 30 minute jog. Weight training will help turn on your furnance (BMR) to burn more calories. 
Well say I'm only trying to lose weight for the moment, would building up to the 5km + weights work? And once I get to uni I'll have access to a gym so I'll be able to create a more solid routine and be able to use some cardio equipment.
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Re: Weight training
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2011, 07:02:18 pm »
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Yeah hopefully :P

The guys that do 100, is their form correct? A lot of people tend to arch their back during the rep which enables heavier weights to be lifted but it's bad for the back.

Gold Standard is great value for money, i get 5lbs for $85 which is decent, I've seen it at GNC for way higher. Seriously guys if you are buying supplements don't go to GNC, they rip you off so bad.
Did you use the ammino charged WPI? Looks pretty decent, why did you switch?
I only use protein supplements at the moment, I might explore glutamines, recovery supps etc after school.

And zyzz was king of aesthetics, he's dead now, partly because of anabolics. check his fb page out and just youtube him haha

Pretty sure you are supposed to arch your back.
Are you sure about that? Maybe you mean retracting the shoulder blades. From what I've read/heard you shouldn't be doing it all the time, maybe just for that last rep or so is ok though.  Form > Weight  :)

@ Hodgeyhodgey If you have access to a rowing or elliptical machine use that for cardio, it's much easier on the joints and incorporates the whole body :)  You could use these as a warm-up before lifting weights, and do HIIT as cardio as mentioned above.
Also a high protein diet is key to losing fat.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2011, 07:13:58 pm »
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Kenoy is spot on - retract your shoulder blades so that your shoulders are forcibly kept back, and don't ever bring them forward! If you arch your back, you can push a lot more weight, because you can bring your lats into it - but you kind of don't want that...

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