Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

October 28, 2025, 08:01:26 am

Author Topic: I'm sorry but....  (Read 7971 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Mao

  • CH41RMN
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 9181
  • Respect: +390
  • School: Kambrya College
  • School Grad Year: 2008
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2011, 10:46:33 pm »
+13
I haven't read everything, but I would like to reply to kazdawg's first post. I have been through a transformation I think you can relate to, from hating alcohol and 'parties' to being the pseudo-alcoholic I am now.

Firstly, your initial inhibitions to drink and such come from your social group. This is very high-school related. There is always that group of annoying 'popular' kids who drink, get smashed, and appear to have a lot of fun. You end up in two categories, to join the popular kids, or to completely different and dislike what they stand for. Most 'intellectuals' tend to fall into the second category, as they are typically more mature and find it harder to relate to other kids at the same age.

In summary (and to word it brutally), you do not like drinking and partying because you dislike your peers (particularly the ones who get smashed all the time). Externally it appears as a way to assert a higher social status.

That's okay though, you will generally come out with a higher social status anyways. As you go through uni and whatnot, you will meet people you connect well with. Drinking and partying will come naturally. You just got to enjoy the ride. Social drinking is quite relaxing, and helps with certain social interaction. You'll learn to appreciate it eventually.

I have converted several non-drinking people (who have become very good friends) into similar pseudo-alcoholics. It's quite hilarious.

[also, straight scotch for the win. and a cigar.]
Editor for ATARNotes Chemistry study guides.

VCE 2008 | Monash BSc (Chem., Appl. Math.) 2009-2011 | UoM BScHon (Chem.) 2012 | UoM PhD (Chem.) 2013-2015

taiga

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 4085
  • Respect: +588
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2011, 10:56:47 pm »
+9
I'm not anti-alcohol as some of the people on this thread, but I do share a similar sentiment.

Drinking seemed so much 'cooler' back in year 11 and 12, when it was sort of seen as something that only some people did. Nowadays it's something that's stock standard, most people do it, and it doesn't raise an eyebrow when I see a mate with a beer in a photo on facebook (it would have a few years ago). The kids that thought they were cool by drinking heaps back in year 11 and 12 are now tossers that promote ratty nightclub events on facebook nonstop (and in general have a bunch of haters :P ).

I think the reason that people drink at the 16-18 age bracket is a heap different to what most start to drink for in University. For me it's not about getting 'smashed' or not remembering anything anymore, rather it's just something that you have a few sips on whilst talking to some mates/meeting new people, or just relax with. I have never drank to the stage where I'm not functional.

A lot of my mates, especially females, still do however drink to the stage where they will vomit, make horrendous decisions (had to stop a couple of my 1st year friends hopping into a car with a bunch of 5th years). I am completely against this type of drinking, but most people grow out of it anyway.
vce: english, methods, spesh, chemistry, physics, geography.

ex admin/mod/partner

2010: Melbourne High School (VCE)
2011 - 2016: Monash University BComm/BEng (Hons)


If you guys have any concerns/suggestions for making ATARNotes a better place, don't hesitate to PM me.

EvangelionZeta

  • Quintessence of Dust
  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Superstar
  • *******
  • Posts: 2435
  • Respect: +288
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2011, 11:00:26 pm »
+1
I'm not anti-alcohol as some of the people on this thread, but I do share a similar sentiment.

Drinking seemed so much 'cooler' back in year 11 and 12, when it was sort of seen as something that only some people did. Nowadays it's something that's stock standard, most people do it, and it doesn't raise an eyebrow when I see a mate with a beer in a photo on facebook (it would have a few years ago). The kids that thought they were cool by drinking heaps back in year 11 and 12 are now tossers that promote ratty nightclub events on facebook nonstop (and in general have a bunch of haters :P ).

I think the reason that people drink at the 16-18 age bracket is a heap different to what most start to drink for in University. For me it's not about getting 'smashed' or not remembering anything anymore, rather it's just something that you have a few sips on whilst talking to some mates/meeting new people, or just relax with. I have never drank to the stage where I'm not functional.

A lot of my mates, especially females, still do however drink to the stage where they will vomit, make horrendous decisions (had to stop a couple of my 1st year friends hopping into a car with a bunch of 5th years). I am completely against this type of drinking, but most people grow out of it anyway.

Quoted for truth. 
---

Finished VCE in 2010 and now teaching professionally. For any inquiries, email me at [email protected].

burbs

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1800
  • Fuck da police - Aristotle
  • Respect: +227
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2011, 11:14:04 pm »
+2
maybe the wrong thread but anyone up for shots Friday night?





(I think that social drinking is healthy, and keeps you relaxed. I probably started because I thought it was 'cool' but lowered inhibitions usually leads to more fun, at least in my experience.

However, you are completely within your rights NOT to drink and people should respect that).

ShortBlackChick

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1103
  • Respect: +212
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2011, 11:15:26 pm »
+1
In summary (and to word it brutally), you do not like drinking and partying because you dislike your peers (particularly the ones who get smashed all the time). Externally it appears as a way to assert a higher social status.

Yeah that does make sense- some of the people in my year level are fucking idiots and I look at them and I go 'yeah dont wanna get drunk, have sex, become preggers by some unknown dude.'

But I dont think I'm against drinking- I'll drink eventually, but right now its not a priority. I dont frown upon those that drink, only those that get 'smashed' OR claim to get smashed because its socially viable OR drink purely because its socially accepted. And I dont understand the expectation of youth to drink.

And partying...LOL I love parties!!! But I dont understand why you need alcohol to make parties fun.
2010: History Revolutions 35
2011: English 3/4, Accounting 3/4, Economics 3/4, Mathematical Methods 3/4, International Studies 3/4.

Quote
This C**t, under the name of anonymous, started giving me shit and I called him a C**t and now look. I'm f****n banned.

dc302

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1031
  • Respect: +53
  • School: Melbourne High School
  • School Grad Year: 2009
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2011, 11:19:46 pm »
+1
In summary (and to word it brutally), you do not like drinking and partying because you dislike your peers (particularly the ones who get smashed all the time). Externally it appears as a way to assert a higher social status.

Yeah that does make sense- some of the people in my year level are fucking idiots and I look at them and I go 'yeah dont wanna get drunk, have sex, become preggers by some unknown dude.'

But I dont think I'm against drinking- I'll drink eventually, but right now its not a priority. I dont frown upon those that drink, only those that get 'smashed' OR claim to get smashed because its socially viable OR drink purely because its socially accepted. And I dont understand the expectation of youth to drink.

And partying...LOL I love parties!!! But I dont understand why you need alcohol to make parties fun.


Your last line is true to an extent, but the problem arises when pretty much everyone at the party is under the influence and you're not. If you can deal with that, then great, but most people can't really. At least in my opinion.
2012-2015 - Doctor of Medicine (MD) @ UniMelb
2010-2011 - Bachelor of Science (BSc) majoring in Pure Mathematics @ UniMelb
2009 - VCE [99.70] -- Eng [43] - Methods [44] - Chem [44] - JapSL [45] - Spesh [45] - MUEP Jap [5.5]

chrisjb

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1047
  • ROAR
  • Respect: +64
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 11:24:01 pm »
+1
okay guys, here's my views on drinking:

I enjoy getting smashed every once in a while. It's hard to describe why, but it's really jut longing for a state where I am able to do anything and feel like I'm a king, and being able to act like a complete douche and never remember it. It's also the fact that when you're out with friends and you're all hammered, you form the most amazing bonds over the most obscure things. It can take me ages to get close to someone under normal circumstances, but one night when we get piss drunk, laugh and talk until the sun comes up and not remembered a lot of it can form a bond and friendship that's really strong.

Also, I get a lot more girls when I'm slightly drunk. There is a limit here, I can't be too wasted, but after 3-4 drinks I'm a hell of a lot more outgoing, like I would be around my closest friends and that means I make lots more friends and hook up with lots more girls.

That said, my biggest peeve is people who go on Facebook and write 'OMG, I'm so drunk!' (invariably misspelling words). I think they're dick heads.

Finally, drinking is good for drowning away sorrows. I know a shitload of you will go 'oh, no chris! You can't do that, you should be confronting your feelings in a more healthy way!' but really, sitting with a mate when you've had a shit week or you've been dumped or got a bad ATAR score (now you can all relate! :P) I find really good and it helps a lot.

All of that said, I do feel embarrassed the morning after I have puked somewhere... Like really embarrassed, to the point where I become a hermit for a day or two :P

anyway, that's my opinion.
2011: 96.35
2012: http://www.thegapyear2012.com/
2013: Arts (Global) Monash
2016: Juris Doctor (somewhere)

jane1234

  • Guest
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 11:30:03 pm »
+2
I used to be exactly the same as you kazdawg.

Then I had a drink... ;)

Nah but seriously, I think unless you have tried it you won't really understand the 'attraction'. I personally have never gotten to the throwing up/passing out/forgetting everything stage, I think that's stupid, but the majority of people who drink don't end up that way. I think that for 18 year olds it's become sort of a rite of passage, which is why there seems to be pressure to drink when you turn 18. But really, it's not a massive deal when you don't do it to excess.

TrueLight

  • Victorian
  • ATAR Notes Superstar
  • ******
  • Posts: 2759
  • Respect: +9
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2011, 01:16:55 am »
+5
omg am i the only one who hates the taste of alcohol? lol well....if there is enough fruit stuff in it to disguise the taste i would consider trying abit :p
http://www.campaignforliberty.com

Completed Bachelor of Science. Majored in Immunology and Microbiology.

“Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.”
George Orwell, 1984.

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."
Adolf Hitler

“The bigger the lie, the more inclined people will be to believe it”
Adolf Hitler

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just

TrueTears

  • TT
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 16363
  • Respect: +667
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2011, 01:22:33 am »
+2
omg am i the only one who hates the taste of alcohol? lol well....if there is enough fruit stuff in it to disguise the taste i would consider trying abit :p
nah same here lol, i hate the taste of it so i'll never get forced into drinking haha
PhD @ MIT (Economics).

Interested in asset pricing, econometrics, and social choice theory.

b^3

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3529
  • Overloading, just don't do it.
  • Respect: +631
  • School: Western Suburbs Area
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2011, 01:24:58 am »
+2
omg am i the only one who hates the taste of alcohol? lol well....if there is enough fruit stuff in it to disguise the taste i would consider trying abit :p
nah same here lol, i hate the taste of it so i'll never get forced into drinking haha
Just don't do what I did and have your friend give you your first taste of alcohol with a 75% shot, definitely wasn't ready for that, at least I did have more confidence for the rest of the night.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 01:27:27 am by b^3 »
2012-2016: Aerospace Engineering/Science (Double Major in Applied Mathematics - Monash Uni)
TI-NSPIRE GUIDES: METH, SPESH

Co-Authored AtarNotes' Maths Study Guides


I'm starting to get too old for this... May be on here or irc from time to time.

stonecold

  • Victorian
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 5335
  • Respect: +255
  • School Grad Year: 2010
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 01:33:02 am »
+1
2011-13: BBiomed (Microbiology & Immunology Major) @ UniMelb


VCE 2009'10: English 46 | English Language 49 | Chemistry 50 | Biology 50 | Further Mathematics 48 | Mathematical Methods CAS 39
ATAR: 99.85

"Failure is not when one falls down but rather when one fails to get up" - unknown

Camo

  • Sir President Father Professor Sergeant Admiral Grandmaster Camo OAM
  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 776
  • I love you like the little taco's.
  • Respect: +62
  • School Grad Year: 2011
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2011, 01:54:49 am »
+3
Did somebody say shots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNtTEibFvlQ&ob=av3e  ;)

When i walk in the club.
All eyes on me.
Im with the party rock crew.
All drinks are free.
We like ciroc.
We love patron.
we came to party rock.
Everybody its on.
Let's go.

Shots shots shots shots shots shots.
Shots shots shots shots shots.
Shots shots shots shots shots.

My view on the consumption of alcohol as it seems to me to be a risky activity (I have my P's so why would I want to jeopardise that?), and has always been viewed as an unhealthy behaviour towards me. I know this may sound corny but my brain is still developing and I don't want to be getting hammered every Saturday night. >.>
‎"We divert our attention from disease and death as much as we can; and the slaughter-houses and indecencies without end on which our life is founded are huddled out of sight and never mentioned, so that the world we recognize officially in literature and in society is a poetic fiction far handsomer and cleaner and better than the world that really is."
- William James.

stonecold

  • Victorian
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 5335
  • Respect: +255
  • School Grad Year: 2010
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2011, 02:06:07 am »
+1
Yeah, fair enough.  I used to be the same tbh. 

Then I pretty much underwent Mao's transformation. :p  Once you get to uni it is a lot more enjoyable.  :)
2011-13: BBiomed (Microbiology & Immunology Major) @ UniMelb


VCE 2009'10: English 46 | English Language 49 | Chemistry 50 | Biology 50 | Further Mathematics 48 | Mathematical Methods CAS 39
ATAR: 99.85

"Failure is not when one falls down but rather when one fails to get up" - unknown

springonion

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 54
  • Respect: +2
Re: I'm sorry but....
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2011, 02:20:24 am »
+1
I used to drink, but then I took an arrow in the knee