UoM Chancellor's Scholar's program Vs Monash MBBS

[Sellingman]

(I wish I could quote everything that's been said so far)
After spending countless hours weighing up all the factors, considering all future pathways, I'm considering UoM as first pref.
This was a really tough decision but in the end, what got me was a combination of these factors:
Quality of the degree, Emphasis on research, Better opportunity for higher study overseas, Greater opportunity for postgraduate research, Stronger academic focus (+ other really minor things: location/breath/travel time etc.)

Personally, my end goal is to do a mixture of clinical work and research, something that aligns more closely with Melbourne than Monash.
(If I was in fact set on doing pure clinical work and was searching for an emphasis on the practical, then it would have been Monash without a doubt...)

At the end of the day, from a financial perspective, Monash is definitely the winner.  In 7 years time you will have gotten 30k from your scholarship plus earned well over 100k as an intern and be debt free, whereas at UniMelb you will just be finishing your degree and still have around 25k of HECS debt remaining if you use your 15k from undergrad to pay it off. 

However, in the long term/distant future, the deficit perhaps corresponds to 1 or 2 years of work (?). Also, there is a chance that Melbourne will have more graduate scholarships available in the future...

Samad/Istafa, I don't want this to affect your decisions - at the end of the day, the decision should be based on your personal situation, motivations and future aspiration.

Go to different unis so we can use you two as a study on whether Monash or UoM makes a better doctor

What exactly do you mean there is a chance there is a chance they will have more graduate scholarships?

There is a chance they will have less as well, what are you basing this off?

[thushan]

Melbourne dudes told us at Chancellor's lunch.

[samad]

Really? Didn't hear, was getting uncomfortably swamped by Media and missed the majority of the lunch though... I think BSci is possible in 2 years no?

[thushan]

It is, and I tried to make a program for it and showed student centre. Got rudely turned away though.

[paulsterio]

It is, and I tried to make a program for it and showed student centre. Got rudely turned away though.

that's why you go with monash, they're so much nicer, i asked them about overloading in order to do a concurrent Arts degree and they said that it's fine if my ATAR is high enough

[paulsterio]

Yeah. we both went UoM 1st pref. in the end, due to the added certainty and many of the reasons that mcchli has outlined.

damn, so we can't conduct a study on which twin will come out as the better doctor!! D:

i swear, we're letting such a good research opportunity pass, how often do we get twins getting into medicine?!

[Sellingman]

Melbourne dudes told us at Chancellor's lunch.

Honestly, I'd take anything they tell you with a grain of salt they were after all trying to sell the university to you.

[mr.politiks]

Yeah. we both went UoM 1st pref. in the end, due to the added certainty and many of the reasons that mcchli has outlined.

damn, so we can't conduct a study on which twin will come out as the better doctor!! D:

i swear, we're letting such a good research opportunity pass, how often do we get twins getting into medicine?!

LOL 

Hey thushan, can you send me the program on PM? I'm guessing that you'll probably miss out on a lot in doing it in 2 years but anyway.

[thushan]

Yeah. we both went UoM 1st pref. in the end, due to the added certainty and many of the reasons that mcchli has outlined.

damn, so we can't conduct a study on which twin will come out as the better doctor!! D:

i swear, we're letting such a good research opportunity pass, how often do we get twins getting into medicine?!

LOL 

Hey thushan, can you send me the program on PM? I'm guessing that you'll probably miss out on a lot in doing it in 2 years but anyway.

Yeah, if I were to do it in three years I planned to do a program that made me eligible for three majors - medicinal chemistry, pharmacology and physiology. If I were to do it in two, I could only major in pharmacology. However, I spoke with melbourne in trying to do the degree in 2 years, by taking 6 subjects in each semester for first year, then 5 subjects in each semester for second year...the lady in the student centre looked at me as though I was an idiot and said flat out that I can't do that.

[Russ]

No offense, but I support her. Do not do your degree in 2 years.

[thushan]

No offence taken mate but why so?

[tram]

Yeah, if I were to do it in three years I planned to do a program that made me eligible for three majors - medicinal chemistry, pharmacology and physiology. If I were to do it in two, I could only major in pharmacology. However, I spoke with melbourne in trying to do the degree in 2 years, by taking 6 subjects in each semester for first year, then 5 subjects in each semester for second year...the lady in the student centre looked at me as though I was an idiot and said flat out that I can't do that.

Just saying even if you do the subjects for more than one major in science, they will only credit your for one major... i know people who have tried

As for why you don't want to do it in two years (like russ said.... just don't) you should chill out and relax a bit in your undergrad, the MD will be intense enough, have fun in uni, join a shitload of clubs and meet people,. not saying that you can't do this if you're doing more subjects (and knowing you'll you'll cope) but trust me you're not going to regret one less year of working (although granted this is the perspective of someone with a three year degree and amazed that a third of his degree is already over, as opposed to you med guys who will be in uni for a decade haha)

[Russ]

The whole point of going to UoM over Monash is that you get to experience a relaxed undergraduate degree and find out where your priorities lie. Cramming 2 extra subjects into a semester is not going to let you do that.

It's also not possible, given the fact that MCB/HSF run in single semesters and they're prerequisites for the third year subjects.

[dc302]

^ The whole reason I could do my degree in 2 years was cause I was able to do 'Group Theory' after Accelerated Maths 1. The year after, they changed the prereqs of Group Theory to BOTH accel maths 1 and 2. Maybe they're trying to say something.

edit: oh and I would like to add that I was still very relaxed in my 2 years

[mr.politiks]

Hmmm.. In the chancellor's scholars program details on UoM website, they say it will allow you to have academic enhancement oppurtunities and guarenteed internships. My brother phoned and they said that they aren't completely sure what this could mean yet. Bit dubious, but it could mean that there are ways to finish your degree faster. (This is all pretty much random, and slightly optimistic, speculation, but anyways) Any thoughts?