Easier to score high in Methods or Spesh?

[max payne]

Ok so I've done Further and its going to be in my top 4 for sure...only question is which is going to be my second maths in there. And please don't tell me to try equally in both methods and spesh because I'm not going to do that. I'd like to think that I'm pretty strong in Methods, I've been doin that kind of maths for years, while with specialist, it's pretty much new ground for me( I didnt do GMA). I was planning to get around a 50 in methods and for spesh to be an increment but the recent change to the scaling has changed things abit. So my question is: If I AM capable of getting around the 50 mark for methods, do you think that I am able to get ABOVE 50 (after scaling for spesh? Should i go all out for spesh and leave MM in my bottom two?

[Shenz0r]

Ok so I've done Further and its going to be in my top 4 for sure...only question is which is going to be my second maths in there. And please don't tell me to try equally in both methods and spesh because I'm not going to do that. I'd like to think that I'm pretty strong in Methods, I've been doin that kind of maths for years, while with specialist, it's pretty much new ground for me( I didnt do GMA). I was planning to get around a 50 in methods and for spesh to be an increment but the recent change to the scaling has changed things abit. So my question is: If I AM capable of getting around the 50 mark for methods, do you think that I am able to get ABOVE 50 (after scaling for spesh? Should i go all out for spesh and leave MM in my bottom two?

I don't do Spesh so don't take me for an expert...
But I personally don't think you should go out all out for Spesh and leave Methods in your bottom two. It's a lot more difficult to get a 40 in Spesh than in Methods, because you're competing against the brightest of Maths students

[totaled]

spesh easily given the increased scaling this year

the saying is that you'll generally get 3 lower in spesh than you did in methods, but let's say you get a 45 methods, which scales to a 48, you would have only needed like a 37 to get the same score, so given spesh's scaling, spesh is a lot, lot easier to score higher in.

[Phy124]

spesh easily given the increased scaling this year

the saying is that you'll generally get 3 lower in spesh than you did in methods, but let's say you get a 45 methods, which scales to a 48, you would have only needed like a 37 to get the same score, so given spesh's scaling, spesh is a lot, lot easier to score higher in.

I would normally be in total agreement, but considering he didn't do GMA his difference between study scores may be slightly larger.

With this being said your scaled spesh score will probably still be higher than your scaled methods, unless you neglect spesh to do exceptionally well in methods.

[max payne]

spesh easily given the increased scaling this year

the saying is that you'll generally get 3 lower in spesh than you did in methods, but let's say you get a 45 methods, which scales to a 48, you would have only needed like a 37 to get the same score, so given spesh's scaling, spesh is a lot, lot easier to score higher in.

I would normally be in total agreement, but considering he didn't do GMA his difference between study scores may be slightly larger.

With this being said your scaled spesh score will probably still be higher than your scaled methods, unless you neglect spesh to do exceptionally well in methods.

yeah see thats what I'm worrying about. Had I done GMA then this would have been an easier decision. I'm not sure If my spesh's insane scaling can compensate for my lack of confidence in it, while I'm very confident in Methods. Idk, maybe I should just treat them equal until mid year? then I could make a more informed decision. what do you think?

[WhoTookMyUsername]

it's to early to put all your eggs in one basket. Treating them equal for the moment is the best option in my opinion, though you stated you are "not going to do that"...

[paulsterio]

Focus on spesh, if you can get a 50 in methods, it's likely you'll get a 40+ in spesh which should scale neatly to above 50, methods maxes out a 50, so it's not worth it as a bottom 2 subject, just focus on spesh, methods won't need too much work

[max payne]

one more question: Which of them requires less minor details in exams. Like which exam is more about thinking and less about technicalities, in other words, least like further?

[brightsky]

spesh

[paulsterio]

one more question: Which of them requires less minor details in exams. Like which exam is more about thinking and less about technicalities, in other words, least like further?

generally you can lose more marks in methods, I got 40/40 and 78/80 for methods and I got 49, I've known people who get 40/40 and 77/80 for spesh and get 47, it's cause methods exams are "relatively" harder, methods is a much weaker cohort.

[Callum]

it's to early to put all your eggs in one basket. Treating them equal for the moment is the best option in my opinion, though you stated you are "not going to do that"...

I agree with Bazza. Work hard at both earlier in the year and see if you can handle spesh. If you are finding it difficult to grasp concepts and get lower marks than what your hoping for in the 1st-2nd SAC's then change your mind set to methods. If you are doing well at spesh, drop methods and concentrate more on spesh.

[max payne]

one more question: Which of them requires less minor details in exams. Like which exam is more about thinking and less about technicalities, in other words, least like further?

generally you can lose more marks in methods, I got 40/40 and 78/80 for methods and I got 49, I've known people who get 40/40 and 77/80 for spesh and get 47, it's cause methods exams are "relatively" harder, methods is a much weaker cohort.

 How many marks could you lose and still have the the same study score as a perfect methods score after scaling. In other words, what exam scores roughly would yield a 39 (raw) for spesh?
Also, sorry if this is a stupid question but are study scores fitted into the bell curve before or after scaling. Like say if you get a 39 (raw) in spesh and it scales to a 50, are you in around the top 10% or the 1% that get a 50?

[jane1234]

it's to early to put all your eggs in one basket. Treating them equal for the moment is the best option in my opinion, though you stated you are "not going to do that"...

^ Do this.

I'm guessing you will receive a higher scaled score for spesh, but this doesn't mean you should neglect methods.

Take this year for example, I was assuming that biology would be in my top 4 over chemistry at the start of the year, so I was going to neglect chem and focus on bio. Guess which one ended up in my top 4? Chem. You just don't know at the start of the year how you are going to go in your subjects. Treat them equal at least for now.

Oh, and even if you are "planning to get a 50 in methods", doesn't mean it will happen. Anything above 45 is a lot harder than you think. I know you're probably confident from your 50 in further, but a getting a 50 in year 11 is a lot different to getting a 50 in year 12.

Sorry to ramble on so much, but I don't think neglecting subjects is a particularly good idea.

[pi]

Easier to score higher in spesh after scaling for sure. Srsly, a 40 in spesh is better than a 50 in methods or further

[nbhindi]

Raw ----> Methods is easier
Scaled  -----> Spesh by a fair bit