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Any Computer geeks in the house?
« on: January 12, 2012, 12:25:45 pm »
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Any computer geeks in the house? :P
I want to get a new graphics  card but Im worried my old mobo wont run it or run it properly?
 I have and Asus p5k-e mobo with intel Q9400 2.66ghz and 4gb hyperX ram. My current Gpu is an xfx 9800gt and I want to upgrade to the HD6870. Will it work? I believe my mobo has a PCIe 1.0 slot while the 8670 is 2.1?  I cbb joining another forum so i just posted this on AN lol.

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 02:48:49 pm »
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Pretty sure it'll run. Your motherboard supports 2 x PCIe x16 so just insert your 6870 into x16 slot.
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 01:33:07 am »
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It will work, you'll just have to upgrade your BIOS.
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 08:26:25 am »
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do you know much peformance would be lost using it in a pci-e 1.0 slot as opposed to 2.1? what about for a 8950? what im trying to say here is whats the maximum card i can put into a pci-e 1.0 slot before it starts to bottleneck?
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 09:00:28 am »
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I'm almost 100% sure the P5K-E has PCI-E 2.0 slots.

Just make sure whenever you get a new card, put it in the blue slot and not the black one.
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 11:46:12 am »
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I'm almost 100% sure the P5K-E has PCI-E 2.0 slots.

Just make sure whenever you get a new card, put it in the blue slot and not the black one.
What makes you say that? Im certain it said pci-e 1x16 on the website specs. anywho Im just gonna get the gigabyte 6870 from msy and see how it works out. thanks

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 12:05:13 pm »
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I'm almost 100% sure the P5K-E has PCI-E 2.0 slots.

Just make sure whenever you get a new card, put it in the blue slot and not the black one.
What makes you say that? Im certain it said pci-e 1x16 on the website specs. anywho Im just gonna get the gigabyte 6870 from msy and see how it works out. thanks

Actually on further research, it turns out boards with the P35 chipset (which the P5K-E is one of) only supports PCI-E 1.1 or 1.0a.

According to Wikipedia...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_2.0

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The PCIe 2.0 standard doubles the transfer rate compared with PCIe 1.0 to 5 GT/s and the per-lane throughput rises from 250 MB/s to 500 MB/s. This means a 32-lane PCI connector (×32) can support throughput up to 16 GB/s aggregate.

Intel's first PCIe 2.0 capable chipset was the X38 and boards began to ship from various vendors (Abit, Asus, Gigabyte) as of October 21, 2007. AMD started supporting PCIe 2.0 with its AMD 700 chipset series and nVidia started with the MCP72. All of Intel's prior chipsets, including the Intel P35 chipset, supported PCIe 1.1 or 1.0a.

I haven't been keeping up with components for a while now, but the difference between a PCI-E 1.0 slot and a PCI-E 2.0 is fairly significant so if you do end up buying a higher end card (like a 6870), you will most likely be unable to utilise its full potential (i.e. the board will be a bottleneck).
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 08:55:08 pm »
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ok so I ended getting the Gigabyte gtx 560 instead because they didnt have the card I was after. So I check it's memory clock on my comp and its at 1000mhz while the specs said 4000mhz? and when I tried to overclock it its max was only 1200mhz. Is that because of my motherboard?

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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 09:39:02 pm »
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ok so I ended getting the Gigabyte gtx 560 instead because they didnt have the card I was after. So I check it's memory clock on my comp and its at 1000mhz while the specs said 4000mhz? and when I tried to overclock it its max was only 1200mhz. Is that because of my motherboard?

Well yeah, most likely... you're not running it in PCIe 2.0, just 1.0-1.1... get a new motherboard bro.
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 11:08:42 pm »
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ok so I ended getting the Gigabyte gtx 560 instead because they didnt have the card I was after. So I check it's memory clock on my comp and its at 1000mhz while the specs said 4000mhz? and when I tried to overclock it its max was only 1200mhz. Is that because of my motherboard?

Are you sure there wasn't a multiplier on the 1000Mhz?  I've gone completely blank as to GPU clocks, but if i recall properly doesn't a Memory clock have a multiply factor?  I might be thinking of CPU's though.  As iamtom mentioned, you'll probably need a new motherboard to run the 560 (just curious, did you get a 560 or a 560ti?).  The problem with this is that there aren't as many brand new motherboards still supporting Socket 775 as most of the Intel market has moved onto Sockets 2011, 1155 and 1366.  I've just done a quick search on PCCaseGear (extremely quick, they only have one Socket 775 mobo) and i've attached a link at the bottom to a motherboard that supports PCI-E x16, I'm not sure if your RAM is DDR2 or DRR3, but that motherboard only supports DDR at 1333, 1066 and 800 Mhz modules.   Just as a side note for conversation, doesn't it suck sometimes how fast computing technology moves? The jump from 775 to 1155 is massive, personally I had to replace my motherboard, my processor and my ram, as i was using DDR2 at the time :P

I'm sorry if a lot of that doesn't make sense, or is in da bad englandz, but if there's anything else feel free to ask :)
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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 11:16:50 pm »
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ok so I ended getting the Gigabyte gtx 560 instead because they didnt have the card I was after. So I check it's memory clock on my comp and its at 1000mhz while the specs said 4000mhz? and when I tried to overclock it its max was only 1200mhz. Is that because of my motherboard?

Are you sure there wasn't a multiplier on the 1000Mhz?  I've gone completely blank as to GPU clocks, but if i recall properly doesn't a Memory clock have a multiply factor?  I might be thinking of CPU's though.  As iamtom mentioned, you'll probably need a new motherboard to run the 560 (just curious, did you get a 560 or a 560ti?).  The problem with this is that there aren't as many brand new motherboards still supporting Socket 775 as most of the Intel market has moved onto Sockets 2011, 1155 and 1366.  I've just done a quick search on PCCaseGear (extremely quick, they only have one Socket 775 mobo) and i've attached a link at the bottom to a motherboard that supports PCI-E x16, I'm not sure if your RAM is DDR2 or DRR3, but that motherboard only supports DDR at 1333, 1066 and 800 Mhz modules.   Just as a side note for conversation, doesn't it suck sometimes how fast computing technology moves? The jump from 775 to 1155 is massive, personally I had to replace my motherboard, my processor and my ram, as i was using DDR2 at the time :P

I'm sorry if a lot of that doesn't make sense, or is in da bad englandz, but if there's anything else feel free to ask :)
yeah I realised... its GDDR5 so multiply it by 4 . 4x1000mhz=4000mhz lol thanks

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Re: Any Computer geeks in the house?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 11:59:45 pm »
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ok so I ended getting the Gigabyte gtx 560 instead because they didnt have the card I was after. So I check it's memory clock on my comp and its at 1000mhz while the specs said 4000mhz? and when I tried to overclock it its max was only 1200mhz. Is that because of my motherboard?

The graphics clock should be separate from the memory clock. They are different things. Most graphics cards tend to run DDR5 these days.
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