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Re: Megaupload is downn. Noo D=
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2012, 01:17:31 pm »
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If that was a serious question, they'll prosecute the ISPs and/or the end user in order to shut off service to people downloading copyrighted material

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Re: Megaupload is downn. Noo D=
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2012, 01:24:46 pm »
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Torrents will still work right? I wonder what they will do about that...

Nothing, because the data is not stored on a sever, but rather shared between torrent users.  Once people stop seeding, a torrent dies.

It is possible to track what people download using torrents.  AFACT will send your ISP copyright infringement notices when they detect that your connection has downloaded copyrighted material, in particular movies.  Then your ISP decides what to do.  Most ISPs such as Telstra, Optus, iiNet etc., do nothing because they don't care.  Smaller ISPs are scared and may terminate your internet connection after several copyright infringement notices.

But all in all, Australian laws make AFACT powerless to do anything substantial.  If they lose the high court ruling that iiNet has purposely allowed customers to obtain material illegally, then the only option left for them is to come after individual users.  This has happened in the US, however I seriously doubt it will happen here any time soon.
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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2012, 01:44:53 pm »
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You missed the memo then. Last month 5 ISPs (Telstra etc.) agreed to start serving infringement notices to consumers and suspending service after three warnings

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Re: Megaupload is downn. Noo D=
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2012, 02:01:29 pm »
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Is FileSonic down too now? :(

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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2012, 02:08:32 pm »
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They voluntarily removed filesharing capabilities (at a guess they don't want to be taken down like MU)

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 02:32:01 pm »
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I've got one of those infringement notices before... so I don't use my home internet to dl torrents, I tether my phone to download them now.
Am I right in saying when you use your phone internet, they can't track you down because multiple people could be using the same connection and it changes from area to area?
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 02:40:00 pm »
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You missed the memo then. Last month 5 ISPs (Telstra etc.) agreed to start serving infringement notices to consumers and suspending service after three warnings

Okay. Haven't really been following it closely lately.  But this is why I don't usually use torrents anyway...
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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 02:42:24 pm »
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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 02:43:48 pm »
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You missed the memo then. Last month 5 ISPs (Telstra etc.) agreed to start serving infringement notices to consumers and suspending service after three warnings
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http://www.lexmedia.com.au/2011/11/group-of-5-isps-to-combat-online.html#.TxzLk2-UTXo

Although iiNet and Internode are now the one company...so technically four.

TPG are not involved.
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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 02:44:38 pm »
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Am I right in saying when you use your phone internet, they can't track you down because multiple people could be using the same connection and it changes from area to area?
Lol no dude what the fuck? your mobile internet is tied to your phone number...
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Re: Megaupload is downn. Noo D=
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 02:48:43 pm »
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SOPA sponsor has another Internet bill that records you 24/7

Senator Lamar Smith, lead sponsor of the currently dead SOPA bill you’ve heard so much about, has another bill in the works that uses Child Pornography as a screen to push through an amendment that’ll have your internet service provider tracking all of your financial dealings online. Each time you use a credit card, each time you read your bank statement, all of your IP information and your search history will be required by your ISP to be stored for 18 months at all times. This bill is H.R. 1981 and will have more dire consequences than SOPA or PIPA ever had the potential to have.

What it does is to amend several rules that have to do with Child Pornography and preventing it, the bill itself called the “Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011.” What it also does is to change the U.S. code Chapter 18 section 2703 Required Disclosure of Customer Communications or Records to include a requirement that your internet service provider do the following:

"A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section."

While it was legal for the government to issue a subpoena for the viewing of the information they speak about here before, it was not part of the law that internet service providers capture or retain that information at any point. In effect, while before the authorities would need to first find a reason for you to need to be watched to get the ISP to start collecting information from you, that information will already exist on file, effectively meaning you’re being watched and recorded even if you’ve done nothing wrong.

Don’t worry though, there’s an additional set of lines that should placate you because it’s so very kind of them to think of:

    "(1) to encourage electronic communication service providers to give prompt notice to their customers in the event of a breach of the data retained pursuant to section 2703(h) of title 18 of the United States Code, in order that those effected can take the necessary steps to protect themselves from potential misuse of private information; and

    (2) that records retained pursuant to section 2703(h) of title 18, United States Code, should be stored securely to protect customer privacy and prevent against breaches of the records."


So don’t worry, your information will be “stored securely” so noone else can access it! But if they do access it, your ISP will give you “prompt notice” so you can change all your credit card numbers, hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband. This bill has currently cleared its committee, this meaning that the next step is a full vote. This bill needs to be stopped, and if I might go one better, Lamar Smith needs to be stopped, for the good of the internet and YOUR privacy.


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Re: Megaupload is downn. Noo D=
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 03:05:28 pm »
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Am I right in saying when you use your phone internet, they can't track you down because multiple people could be using the same connection and it changes from area to area?
Lol no dude what the fuck? your mobile internet is tied to your phone number...

Yeah this is like saying that they can't track your internet connection because it's through the same ISP. Whoever is supplying your internet has the ability to distinguish it.

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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 03:09:03 pm »
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Am I right in saying when you use your phone internet, they can't track you down because multiple people could be using the same connection and it changes from area to area?
Lol no dude what the fuck? your mobile internet is tied to your phone number...

Yeah this is like saying that they can't track your internet connection because it's through the same ISP. Whoever is supplying your internet has the ability to distinguish it.
sorry I'm a noob in this area XD
What I meant was when you move from tower to tower does you IP address change (on 3G network)? Because isn't it the IP address that allows them to track your online movements?
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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 03:12:05 pm »
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You can change your IP address as much as you want, but your ISP is still the one assigning it to you, so they can always see who has it..