Year 12 Class of 2013, REPORT HERE!

[duquesne9995]

Will T, where/which school will you be doing your classes at?

[nosuperstar]

After seeing Stick's recent post, I think I should contribute, I like to lurk this thread a lot and I've recently become addicted to AN.
Also, I think the lie might be - 'I used to have a mole on my bottom, which got removed'?

I'd like to introduce myself as one of the stupidest year 11's in this thread, as I have so much regret for not doing a 3/4 this year, nice to meet you all!

[Will T]

I'm not sure if it has been decided yet. I know that some of the lectures in previous years have been held at my school (Haileybury Keysborough), and I heard that they have been held at Brighton Grammar as well. But I'm not sure, I think they're still deciding venues and all that.

[Will T]

Welcome nosuperstar!
Too bad about the 3 & 4, but there should be plenty of opportunities to excel next year

[Lasercookie]

It is a bit unfair though, because I'm pretty sure you can do as many humanities subjects as you want, and the same restrictions don't apply.

The restrictions do apply to just beyond maths. From VICTER, though perhaps you wouldn't umbrella most of the ones listed here as "humanities" . 

In each of the study areas of English, mathematics, history, Contemporary Australian studies, information technology, LOTE and music:
•    at most two results can contribute to the primary four
•    at most three results can contribute to the ATAR, be they VCE results, Higher Education study results, or VET  results .

Those are really just the subjects that are quite similar. Also note that you can do as many science subjects as you want etc.

[Will T]

That gives greater clarity on the issue, thanks laseredd.

[nosuperstar]

Thanks Will T!

Oh, also, just wondering if I could get some opinions, if you had the option of taking 6 subjects in year 12, or dropping one for free periods, what would you do? Considering if you didn't do 3/4s in year 11?

[paulsterio]

Oh, also, just wondering if I could get some opinions, if you had the option of taking 6 subjects in year 12, or dropping one for free periods, what would you do? Considering if you didn't do 3/4s in year 11?

If you didn't do a 3/4 subject in Y11, it's worth it to do 6 in Y12, considering the amount that do end up with 6 studies, you'll be at a disadvantage if you only end up doing 5. Just think about it this way, a 3.0 addition to your aggregate can add a fair bit to your ATAR.

[nosuperstar]

If you didn't do a 3/4 subject in Y11, it's worth it to do 6 in Y12, considering the amount that do end up with 6 studies, you'll be at a disadvantage if you only end up doing 5. Just think about it this way, a 3.0 addition to your aggregate can add a fair bit to your ATAR.

In my situation, looking at my subjects, the only difficult one I want to pick up is methods, so with the subjects I currently have, and methods on top of that, would you reckon it won't effect me if I don't get free periods?

[Starlight]

If you didn't do a 3/4 subject in Y11, it's worth it to do 6 in Y12, considering the amount that do end up with 6 studies, you'll be at a disadvantage if you only end up doing 5. Just think about it this way, a 3.0 addition to your aggregate can add a fair bit to your ATAR.

In my situation, looking at my subjects, the only difficult one I want to pick up is methods, so with the subjects I currently have, and methods on top of that, would you reckon it won't effect me if I don't get free periods?

Oh, also, just wondering if I could get some opinions, if you had the option of taking 6 subjects in year 12, or dropping one for free periods, what would you do? Considering if you didn't do 3/4s in year 11?

If you didn't do a 3/4 subject in Y11, it's worth it to do 6 in Y12, considering the amount that do end up with 6 studies, you'll be at a disadvantage if you only end up doing 5. Just think about it this way, a 3.0 addition to your aggregate can add a fair bit to your ATAR.

Yeah although it's an advantage to pick up a 6th subject, there will obviously be a greater workload to get through during the year.

I think you have to think to yourself, is this too much to handle or can i cope?

Just to put things into perspective you would have 9 exams during the year as opposed to 7 (assuming you dropped one of methods or further)

Edit: I made a mistake it's actually 9 if you include the accounting mid-year, also woah! If you look at the exam timetable all the exams are pretty much going to be back to back, this is also another thing to consider.

Edit again: It's 8 because there are no mid-years (thanks for the reminder laseredd)

[Lasercookie]

Edit: I made a mistake it's actually 9 if you include the accounting mid-year, also woah! If you look at the exam timetable all the exams are pretty much going to be back to back, this is also another thing to consider.

No midyears next year

[Starlight]

Edit: I made a mistake it's actually 9 if you include the accounting mid-year, also woah! If you look at the exam timetable all the exams are pretty much going to be back to back, this is also another thing to consider.

No midyears next year

Oh yeah whoops, haha 

[Stick]

Welcome to the cohort, nosuperstar! Please don't feel 'stupid' for not picking a Unit 3&4 study in Year 11 - I essentially regret choosing Further almost every single lesson. Sure, it's quite easy, I'm ranked 1 and I'm doing really good on the exams, but as someone who enjoys learning, the subject has incredibly little to offer. Not to mention, it is a huge burden mentally - it's so competitive I have to be overly meticulous and careful. It's no longer fun and I wish my school would actually allow higher achievers to extend themselves a bit more.

As for your dilemma, it's a bit of a tricky one, because you could work to really ace your five subjects, or work to a slightly lower standard but maximise your score with a full board of subjects. As I have already experienced a lot of regret with subject selection (picking Physics this year, having to pick up Biology next year, Italian being dropped, studying Further this year) you need to do what you will enjoy. Unfortunately, there's very little I can do about my situation but you still have some freedom. Read the study designs, see the key learning area co-ordinators at your school or speak to your careers counsellor for advice.

As for our little game, Starfish was the first person to guess the lie (no, despite the fact I'm incredibly nervous being, I have not thrown up during a test). We'll just wait for him to come up with his two truths and a lie.

[nosuperstar]

Yeah although it's an advantage to pick up a 6th subject, there will obviously be a greater workload to get through during the year.

I think you have to think to yourself, is this too much to handle or can i cope?

Just to put things into perspective you would have 9 exams during the year as opposed to 7 (assuming you dropped one of methods or further)

Edit: I made a mistake it's actually 9 if you include the accounting mid-year, also woah! If you look at the exam timetable all the exams are pretty much going to be back to back, this is also another thing to consider.

Edit again: It's 8 because there are no mid-years (thanks for the reminder laseredd)

That's fine! haha, i'll still have 9 exams because i'll be doing a compulsory Unit 2 of Religion and society.

When I think about free periods, I feel as though they'll be a waste of time if i'm with friends, all my other subjects aren't overly hard so I would only need to study a huge amount for methods, though if I take on 6 subjects, i'll need to dedicate a lot of time to studying and practice exams. I'm only considering doing methods so I fit the prerequisites for majority of courses, i'm trying to keep all my options open so i'm relying on the primary 4 for methods not to affect my mark, but additionally, get a 10% inc.

Welcome to the cohort, nosuperstar! Please don't feel 'stupid' for not picking a Unit 3&4 study in Year 11 - I essentially regret choosing Further almost every single lesson. Sure, it's quite easy, I'm ranked 1 and I'm doing really good on the exams, but as someone who enjoys learning, the subject has incredibly little to offer. Not to mention, it is a huge burden mentally - it's so competitive I have to be overly meticulous and careful. It's no longer fun and I wish my school would actually allow higher achievers to extend themselves a bit more.

As for your dilemma, it's a bit of a tricky one, because you could work to really ace your five subjects, or work to a slightly lower standard but maximise your score with a full board of subjects. As I have already experienced a lot of regret with subject selection (picking Physics this year, having to pick up Biology next year, Italian being dropped, studying Further this year) you need to do what you will enjoy. Unfortunately, there's very little I can do about my situation but you still have some freedom. Read the study designs, see the key learning area co-ordinators at your school or speak to your careers counsellor for advice.

As for our little game, Starfish was the first person to guess the lie (no, despite the fact I'm incredibly nervous being, I have not thrown up during a test). We'll just wait for him to come up with his two truths and a lie.

Thanks! Feel free to call me Shannon! 

I'm in the same situation with further/general on a 1/2 level, I regret dropping methods for it truthfully, but I don't regret the success i've had in it. I wish to keep with it next year because there's a high chance to get a 45+ if i'm careful with my mistakes and aim for marks similar to what i've achieved this year. I've achieved rank 1 with minimal effort, and as I will be putting more effort into it next year, I can just assume my marks will be close to perfect, the challenge factor though is the one letdown with the subject, little of it.

I've been stressed for the past 2 weeks because of it and i'm really anticipating going back to school so I can talk to my careers counselor. I think i'll check out the study designs tonight, I know I can ace my current five subjects, but it's just that i'll be devoting a lot of my time to methods, which though it will bring me much stress next year, will open up many possibilities for the future.

Seeing as your doing methods next year, do you see unit 1/2 to be difficult or think it's a heavy workload, also do you think it's possible to do 3/4 methods without 1/2?

[Stick]

It's funny that you ask about my Methods background, Shannon, because it's quite unique. This is how my mathematics program fell into place throughout high school:

Year 7: Standard mathematics
Year 8: Accelerated (Year 9) mathematics
Year 9: Accelerated (Year 10) mathematics
Year 10: Mathematical Methods (CAS) 1/2
Year 11: Further Mathematics 3/4, Advanced General Mathematics 1/2
Year 12: Mathematical Methods (CAS) 3/4, Specialist Mathematics 3/4

So as you can see, I'm not studying Methods at all this year! Also, my school did this weird supplement subject thing up until this year where the Methods students did a 'General Methods' subject in Year 11, but none of the accelerated students did it, so I am yet to study logs and exponents (I've heard this isn't too difficult though). Unfortunately I'm probably not the best person to comment on the matter because my school treats Methods as some special subject - no one is allowed to accelerate in it and you would probably not be allowed to pick it up at 3/4 without 1/2 at my school (my school is like this - I went through hell to convince them to let me do Biology 3/4 when most of the Year 12 course is different to the Year 11 course). I've heard Methods approximately stays the same throughout all Units with the exception of probability, which actually gets more simple.

If you really wanted my personal opinion, I think you could do it in Year 12 as long as you work hard and are willing to get yourself extra support (this might mean getting a tutor). I believe the actual course is quite big in terms of content and you will probably find it's one of your more demanding subjects. However, with that being said, Further will become a breeze for you and you'll probably be able to fill out certain modules of the exam without even attending a Further lesson! When people do six subjects in a year, you'll find that a lot choose one subject as their 'last priority' subject and merely aim for a 35 in it. Further suits this description perfectly for students undertaking other mathematics subjects.

It's certainly not the ideal situation, but I know exactly what you're going through because I'm going through it myself. If you want it bad enough, no inconvenience will ever stand in your way. My mum had to pick up Art in Year 12 and do two year's worth of work because she failed Year 11 Maths and it turned out to be her best subject in HSC. Whenever I'm feeling stressed about it all, I think of this. Hopefully it works for you too. Don't be put off by the challenge.