ANY CHANCE OF MEDICINE IN AUSTRALIA?

[Studyinghard]

I think Indian medicine works basically on the amount of money you have given that you are an NRI. I think approximate cost is around 200k for the whole course but they have prerequisites of physics,chemistry and biology that you need to have before you are eligible to do med.

Stick the Post graduate course for med by doing the GAMSAT

[Russ]

I'll make it very simple: if you go to an Indian (or any other international medical school) without being willing to spend the rest of your life working in that country, then you're an idiot. You may be able to return to Australia and begin working here as if there was no difference, but if you're expecting that to happen and planning on it, then you need to seriously look at the reality of the situation. If you're an FMG and you're a rockstar and the best cardiothoracic surgeon in the world, then yeah, you can pretty much do whatever you want and you'll get approved to work here easily. If not, then you go to the back of the line and it's a long way up. I know which option I'd be taking.

[matt123]

Go to Uom.
If you cant persist with a high GPA ( in science , which is so much easier than people your competing against studying pharm , optom etc)  , then the reality is you truly shouldn't be a doctor.
Being a doctor requires persistence , patience and hard work.

if your in it for the money ... the prestige ... I strongly suggest you seek another career pathway.

Otherwise .. Sit down . stop wasting your time and the time of others complaining its too difficult on internet forums and get your head into the books ... start studying for gamsat now? .. you can do it in 2013.

If you truly want med .. start studying hard like the rest of us and you will eventually get there ( assuming your capable and competent , which is another thing you may find out about yourself in the years to come).

all the best  , goodluck.

[burbs]

It's going to be very difficult to maintain a high GPA and gamsat is very difficult.

In that case, I'll make it easy for you.
You have NO chance of Medicine in Australia

are you telling me that there hasn't been anyone who has gotten below 99, or someone that has gotten the same score as Ngage0 here that has gotten in medicine postgraduate (if you want to be even more specific, at melbourne university?)

Don't be afraid to dream high. Even if others, such as argonaut are unwilling to

I think what argo was saying was that if you aren't willing to try, you won't get it. He just said it much more bluntly.

[pi]

^^I think he's referring to the work ethic and mindset of Ngage0, rather than past achievements. If Ngage0 isn't willing to put in the effort, then there will be NO chance of med.


edit: what burbs said

[Ngage0]

I went there and asked about everything. They require an atar of 90+ and $180,000 upfront payment and 60% in chemistry, physics, biology  @ Manipal University.I can afford the payment and i have the marks and ranks. The uni is recognised by amc but you still need to pass the multiple choice exam amc offers. I worked preety hard in vce to get an atar of 94.35 i think i can handle medicine and pass the amc exam.

[taiga]

If you don't think you can beat the Australian system, then good luck beating the Indian system.

It's a completely different style of learning and by having an Australian high school education you're already in excess of a year behind on the theoretical knowledge required.

[pi]

If you're willing to work hard to pass the amc exam (which IS NOT easy!), then why not take a graduate pathway in Australia?

It's a completely different style of learning and by having an Australian high school education you're already in excess of a year behind on the theoretical knowledge required.

+1, exactly my point. You will have to work MUCH harder than you did in VCE to firstly catch-up with everyone else, secondly pass, and finally to pass the exams to come back to Australia.

[Hellrocks]

I went there and asked about everything. They require an atar of 90+ and $180,000 upfront payment and 60% in chemistry, physics, biology  @ Manipal University.I can afford the payment and i have the marks and ranks. The uni is recognised by amc but you still need to pass the multiple choice exam amc offers. I worked preety hard in vce to get an atar of 94.35 i think i can handle medicine and pass the amc exam.

If you are determined to go ahead with that, then I guess I hope it turns out good for you.

[Ngage0]

I worked hard in vce, i just want to relax and pass my exams at uni by maintaining an above average gpa of 70-80% its cause of this that puts me off studying in australia because you need a H1 90-100% and you have to study even harder for gamsat.

[pi]

I worked hard in vce, i just want to relax and pass my exams at uni by maintaining an above average gpa of 70-80% its cause of this that puts me off studying in australia because you need a H1 90-100% and you have to study even harder for gamsat.

You won't do that (bold) by going to India. You are already far behind (as I and taiga have said), and if you plan to cram India's yr12 subjects in a semester whilst juggling UoM Science, then you've got no chance (not being harsh, but realistic, Indian schooling is tough as hell). If you thought VCE was "hard-work", you are in for a big shock, sorry. Furthermore, once you're in med, its not exactly a "relaxing" course either, its more hard work!

Relax a bit after 2-3 years of UoM Science and gamsat, once you're in MD or something similar



edit: I actually advise that you go for a gap year. That way you can relax and then re-focus!

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[Ngage0]

what i am planning on doing is, taking chemistry1, biology and cell development, physics 1 and calculus 1 in BSc at UoM for 1 semester. after 1 semester i am going to drop out of the course and begin my mbbs degree in august which is when it starts. i am hoping my 1st semester knowledge of these subjects will help me when i start studying biochemistry, physiology and anatomy in mbbs.

[pi]

Well, if you're sure you've thought about it, then go for it. I wouldn't (and so far no-one posting in this thread would either), but in the end, its your money and time.

Just realise that you won't get to "relax" during the MBBS, its quite a heavy course in any country. And passing that AMC exam is very tough and some people can't pass it after a decade and more.

Good luck, and I hope it works out eventually

[paulsterio]

I've spoken to a lot of Australian MBBS students, as I'm going into that course, and I can assure you that an MBBS course, no matter where you do it is NOT easy. You're not going to relax and pass your exams, you're going to be working your ass off just to pass the damn exams, and furthermore, you want good grades as you want a good internship at a good hospital. If your attitude is "i'm going to relax and just pass exams", that might work for a Commerce or Science degree, but not for Medicine, the amount of material that is crammed into the first 2 years of the Monash MBBS is really quite a lot.

Btw, you do realise, passing the AMC Exam as well as the OSCEs (the thingos where you have to pretend to diagnose patients) isn't easy at all. You'll be in a long line of other doctors who have far more experience and have been trying for years. Truth to be told, if you ARE going to get in via the international way, you have a good chance of getting in through the Graduate path as well. You can't just use a cop-out and leave the hard work till later.

As everyone here, Taiga,pi, burbs and argonaut have basically been saying, you have to put in the hard work. If you don't want to put in the hard work, you're not going to do medicine. If going to India is a good idea, don't you reckon a lot of other people who don't get into medicine here would have chosen that option?


Personally, I'll recommend going via Graduate, but like pi, if you decide to go to India, then good luck

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[Ngage0]

i am also thinking of other options like mayby dropping out of Bsc before it even begins and just studying for the umat and trying to get a good umat score and applying for the interstate uni's which i did not do at the time. Also allot of people may not choose the option to study overseas just for the costs.