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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2012, 11:40:37 pm »
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I wasn't flaming him Thushan, I was pro-"getting him on board" the whole time, I just don't think Peanuts' motivation for getting him onboard (i.e. Marketing Power) - weren't the right motivations

Believe me, I'm sure Micheal is a top guy with a beastly brain!

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #91 on: March 25, 2012, 08:33:13 am »
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1. No I never said that, I just said that we shouldn't be selecting him based on his study scores

2. Not really, like I said, six 50s doesn't correspond to a good book, people buy books based on the content, not on how many 50s the writer got. So if I said that I got 50s in Chemistry, Latin, French, English...etc. does that really affect the quality of my maths book, umm, not really

3. That's unethical


But yep, fully agree with enwiabe, get him on board for the future books!

VCE maths is not about real maths.

If someone has 6 50s, they have succeeded time and time again at killing a vce subject.

No shit getting a 50 doesn't mean you can write a good book on a subject, but Mike is Mike. End of the day, as I have said, I don't think it's that hard to write a good study guide once you've done some uni work in your subject as Mike has. And I think more or less anyone can write a good study guide, so may as well use mchli's awesome proness as well as his absolutely amazing marketing power.

Look at Thushan, Thushan is effectively just as good as mchli, 5 50s (or however many you got, I don't really care) but there's just something perfect and different about someone who gets 50 50 50 50 50 50 5.5 47 from a marketing perspective.

He is that good in real life it is borderline freaky. If there was such a think as academic-performance enhancing drugs. I'd be certain he was on them.


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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2012, 11:10:42 am »
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Look now, I wasn't trying to start an argument, but just present some points which I think were worth looking at!

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #93 on: March 25, 2012, 11:57:07 am »
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Ok... we get it... Mchli did really well... is he paying you to advertise him non-stop?
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #94 on: March 25, 2012, 03:54:07 pm »
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When you meet him in real life, you will understand.

Not one minute of his day is wasted. It's just incredible.

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #95 on: March 25, 2012, 04:13:18 pm »
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Maybe actually get the guy himself here, and ask him if he will do it instead of praising (and going overboard) him and  his various achievements (he did have excellent results btw). Stop all the arguing. Its the quality of the text that matters guys. its the AN'ers that are going to buy it in the end. The constant debating that has been going on is pointless as anyone who sees his credentials would see what an amazing person he must be to achieve such great results.
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #96 on: March 25, 2012, 04:18:44 pm »
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We're quite aware of Michli, but what you'll notice very quickly is that all the writers of the books have been members on AN who have consistently been able to explain concepts clearly to a broad range of students through help in threads and PMs.

From a marketing perspective, yeah, there might be a marginal difference between Thushan and Michli, but in reality it's not going to convert as well.

Derrick Ha's particular success, is because he was incredibly involved with his school, an extremely effective communicator, very modest, and good at a broad variety of things. In all honesty, kids who get 99.95 easily fade away from the limelight within a few years because quite frankly a lot of them don't do much interesting with themselves (from my perspective). Derrick Ha began creating value for the VCE community the moment he left, and did so in a massive way with his lectures and notes, and Thushan has been following this quite successfully and has definitely already made very valuable contributions to the VCE Community with his questions, lectures, and forum assistance. We're more than happy to look into more candidates (as we will with Michael), but I'd ask you to see our writers as more than just marketing tools, because they're actually freaking amazing at what they're doing.
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #97 on: March 25, 2012, 04:52:36 pm »
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We're quite aware of Michli, but what you'll notice very quickly is that all the writers of the books have been members on AN who have consistently been able to explain concepts clearly to a broad range of students through help in threads and PMs.

From a marketing perspective, yeah, there might be a marginal difference between Thushan and Michli, but in reality it's not going to convert as well.

Derrick Ha's particular success, is because he was incredibly involved with his school, an extremely effective communicator, very modest, and good at a broad variety of things. In all honesty, kids who get 99.95 easily fade away from the limelight within a few years because quite frankly a lot of them don't do much interesting with themselves (from my perspective). Derrick Ha began creating value for the VCE community the moment he left, and did so in a massive way with his lectures and notes, and Thushan has been following this quite successfully and has definitely already made very valuable contributions to the VCE Community with his questions, lectures, and forum assistance. We're more than happy to look into more candidates (as we will with Michael), but I'd ask you to see our writers as more than just marketing tools, because they're actually freaking amazing at what they're doing.

Fair enough, I concede that you know more then me about this business. I still don't see why you have any reason to doubt that Michael Li can write a fantastic book.

I agree that with most of what you say, but I just don't feel mchli is your typical 99.95er. I've asked him questions in chemistry and he just blows you away with his knowledge.

My point still stands, I just don't think it is that hard to write a good book for vce-level maths as the concepts are quite simple. So given that I think most people could write a really top-notch quality book, and mchli is one of them, you may as well have someone with massive marketing power.

I do take your point about DHa though.

I won't comment any more on the matter, I've made my point.


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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #98 on: March 25, 2012, 06:41:23 pm »
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Fully agree with Taiga, it's not all about the marketing.

I agree, that Michael is an amazing guy. Talking to other Scotch kids as well, they all seem to agree that not only is he smart, but also an all round great person

Like we've all said Peanuts11, he might be good to recruit in the future, but right now, the books are essentially done anyway.

But yes, Derrick was involved in many different things after VCE and he cemented his name in as not only someone who got an amazing 99.95 and five 50s, but also as a lecturer, someone who wrote books, and as a tutor, amongst other things.

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #99 on: March 25, 2012, 09:10:18 pm »
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #100 on: March 25, 2012, 09:33:09 pm »
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Oh look, that cover sure has a sexy spine ;)

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #101 on: March 25, 2012, 09:45:45 pm »
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English cover!

http://i.imgur.com/oQqOg.jpg


Cover's good.

As for content, if you have not done so already, get AN member 'dilks' on board.
That bloke can REALLY explain VCE English.
Even a compilation of his forum posts would be worth money imo
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #102 on: March 25, 2012, 09:48:20 pm »
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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #103 on: March 25, 2012, 10:40:44 pm »
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Oh look, that cover sure has a sexy spine ;)

I must admit, I was quite taken with the spine of your design and demanded its inclusion in Paul's cover :P

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Re: The pre-order for English and Chemistry begins in 3 hours.
« Reply #104 on: March 25, 2012, 10:41:32 pm »
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will you be selling any coming sunday at state library enwiabe?

We are investigating the legality of doing this and we might rent virtual office space for this purpose. We'll keep you guys updated.