Studying in Year 12

[paulsterio]

I'm pretty sure private schooling is about more than just getting a high ATAR. In fact all schooling is, but I'd say the major benefits of private schools aren't associated with academic brilliance, which can be achieved anywhere.

Academic brilliance is one of the reasons why people go to private schools, if not the main reason

[ecvkcuf]

I disagree the school that you go to does matter. I think the most of the people on this forum just assume that its not that big of a deal when they went to the some of the best schools in the state.. the environment and students  attitude to education can have a great impact on your ability to learn at school. It is much easier to go to a school where people want to be there. I go to one of the bottom top 4 schools in the state ranked 477 or so.. my friends sis worked her ass off 6 hr a day  for a 85 atar  she duxed the school..but her atar would be considered mediocre at some of the top schools.. just saying. I'm not complaining though since I've meet great people here.

[Surgeon]

Going to Haileybury, a school that is perceived to be quite prestigious and expensive by society at large, I see what actually happens.

I personally know quite a few people who have already graduated, are in Year 12 this year and even people who are in Year 11 this year that couldn't care less about their education and have intended to go into a trade for several years.

How do you explain their presence in a school that people go to for academic excellence?

Their parents can obviously afford it and have decided that they want their child(ren) to be Haileyburians. The connections you could potentially make alone, are very enticing.

I know many people who are destined to achieve great things in a wide variety of areas, whether it be academia or sports.

Hence: Many people also send their children to top-tier private schools for the connections.

I, for example, hope to send my child(ren) to La Rosey. The likelihood of it happening is quite low but nevertheless, I'd like to be able to provide them with that.

[CaiTheHuman]

I believe it is the confidence which Private Schools seem to offer. They give students an assurance that they may do well. Hence they tend to do better than Public Schools Pupils.However this is all up to the individual and their traits. Some people may have better critical analysis skills than others.

[charmanderp]

I'm pretty sure private schooling is about more than just getting a high ATAR. In fact all schooling is, but I'd say the major benefits of private schools aren't associated with academic brilliance, which can be achieved anywhere.

Academic brilliance is one of the reasons why people go to private schools, if not the main reason

I'm not saying that it's not important, or that it doesn't help someone achieve academically, but I honestly can't believe that anyone would spend $25K a year for no other reason than to get a high ATAR.

[paulsterio]

I personally know quite a few people who have already graduated, are in Year 12 this year and even people who are in Year 11 this year that couldn't care less about their education and have intended to go into a trade for several years.

How do you explain their presence in a school that people go to for academic excellence?

Their parents can obviously afford it and have decided that they want their child(ren) to be Haileyburians. The connections you could potentially make alone, are very enticing.

What do you mean by connections?

I'm not saying that it's not important, or that it doesn't help someone achieve academically, but I honestly can't believe that anyone would spend $25K a year for no other reason than to get a high ATAR.

I disagree, there are many people out there who are willing to pay any price to get a high ATAR or get into a specific course at a specific university. In the end, I do agree that there are many reasons why parents send their kids to private schools, but I still think the underlying and most important reason is to get a high ATAR.

[WhoTookMyUsername]

^i would say "high quality education" is the most important reason -> not synonymous with a "high ATAR"

[pi]

I personally know quite a few people who have already graduated, are in Year 12 this year and even people who are in Year 11 this year that couldn't care less about their education and have intended to go into a trade for several years.

How do you explain their presence in a school that people go to for academic excellence?

Their parents can obviously afford it and have decided that they want their child(ren) to be Haileyburians. The connections you could potentially make alone, are very enticing.

What do you mean by connections?

Through things like Old Boys Clubs and things, connections can be made that are helpful for future careers.

[Surgeon]

I personally know quite a few people who have already graduated, are in Year 12 this year and even people who are in Year 11 this year that couldn't care less about their education and have intended to go into a trade for several years.

How do you explain their presence in a school that people go to for academic excellence?

Their parents can obviously afford it and have decided that they want their child(ren) to be Haileyburians. The connections you could potentially make alone, are very enticing.

What do you mean by connections?

Through things like Old Boys Clubs and things, connections can be made that are helpful for future careers.

Precisely.

[Yendall]

High school doesn't only provide opportunity for further education, it sets grounds for morals, respect, confidence etc. In comparison to other schools, the higher the quality of a school could potentially create a higher quality citizen when they graduate.

This isn't true in all cases, but surely that's another factor of why people would be placed in a prestigious private school. They have a reputation for hosting the best pupils.

[paulsterio]

Ok, since this discussion has sorta been restarted, I was thinking about this and was wondering what you guys thought about it. Sure private schools may give higher quality education, but do you think private schools shelter students too much from the real world?

[paulsterio]

lol

MHS probably does

How so?

[Russ]

I think the "real world" exposure in a high school is going to be negligible between private/public when compared to the "real world" exposure in the home environment...

[paulsterio]

Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at before, the fact that it doesn't represent an accurate snapshot of society. In some ways, I guess MHS/Private Schools have that "groomed for success" sort of feel about them.

I went to a good local public school, the environment was friendly as well, and of course there was no bullying, but there were the occasional fights and stuff, but generally it was amicable as well, but it's a different environment because not so many people cared so much about success, there were heaps of people who didn't (which isn't a bad thing). But apart from that it was a much more diverse cohort then I guess what you would find at MHS or private schools. The cohort as well balanced, many different people from different backgrounds, people who were high achievers, people who were lower achievers, people who had very different aspirations (unlike at MHS, where you mention most people have similar aspirations).

In some ways I think that this difference is a good thing, it's more in tune with what society is like as a whole.

I think the "real world" exposure in a high school is going to be negligible between private/public when compared to the "real world" exposure in the home environment...

What do you mean by the home environment, could you expand?

[Russ]

If you're elite upper class and you have two holidays a year plus a mansion and a regular cleaner etc. then you're going to develop with different real world exposure than the other end of the spectrum