[offtopic] scaling, private vs public schools, etc

[Peanuts11]

To be fair, all I remember in years 1-8 were playing on the playground and yu-gi-oh cards, I can't believe people actually had an academic goal etc at this age. wow.

You'd be surprised. I wanted to go to MHS when I was in year 8, and many I know had similar goals at that time. It's actually not that rare tbh.

Sometimes it comes down to parents (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but the student usually has interest too (well, I did in any case).

Look, I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm assuming you wanted to be doctors and large majority were Indian/Lankan/Paki/Asian etc?

No. Of my friends who were keen to try-out, one wanted to own a casino, one wanted to become a lawyer, one wanted to become a CEO (I think, it was either this or an accountant...), two engineer, three or four didn't know what they wanted (in all honesty), and me a doctor (although, I wasn't entirely sure tbh).

They weren't all Asian either. Only 3 of the people above were Indian, a couple were Caucasian, the rest were Asian (this kinda reflected the demographics of my class in UHS too, coincidentally).

This is going completely off-topic so I will stop after this, pm me if you want to discuss it further. But you basically said you all wanted to get rich?

[pi]

But you basically said you all wanted to get rich?

Haha, who doesn't want to become rich?


(although money might not have been the primary source of motivation for those guys (it isn't for me), I never really asked them)


edit: I edited the last post, showing you what they are doing now too

[nubs]

Thushan, this is my point, if the 99.95ers such as Cam were genuinely as intelligent and hard-working as their score reflects, why do they need that guarantee?

They don't need that guarantee, it's probably just the university's way of luring very intelligent people into studying there and not going to Monash or some other uni instead.

[Peanuts11]

Thushan, this is my point, if the 99.95ers such as Cam were genuinely as intelligent and hard-working as their score reflects, why do they need that guarantee?

They don't need that guarantee, it's probably just the university's way of luring very intelligent people into studying there and not going to Monash or some other uni instead.

Orly?

To quote Russ two years ago on Melbourne University open day:

"A few of my friends who got 99.95 are actually struggling to keep the 75% needed for their guaranteed place"

And these days a 75% ( or 6.5GPA roughly ) is below average for Melbourne Med.

So yeh.

[Kanon]

Going to a private school makes it easier to get a higher ATAR. This isn't fair. Life is unfair, but get used to it.

Simple as that unfortunately.

This post speaks the truth about scaling, public vs private and such. Whilst it is all bullcrap, in a way we as public schoolers do learn at an earlier age that life is unfair.  I think honestly, we should all just be greatful with what we have remembering that someone is always going to be in a worse of position than you.  Look at me, I was born into a family where education isn't valued, my parents are both undergoing their divorce this year, found out I had a secret step sister 3 monthes ago and am having problems funding tutoring because my parents would be considered lower class and don't believe in tuition, allst under other private circumstances.  But the moment you sit there and weep is the moment you get blown over by the slightest of breeze.

As preachy as this is, just be greatful for what you have. 

[paulsterio]

Look, I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm assuming you wanted to be doctors and large majority were Indian/Lankan/Paki/Asian etc?

Massive generalisation, there are more white people in medicine than any other race, as far as I know - so don't pull those culture stuff you talk about

You'd be surprised. I wanted to go to MHS when I was in year 8, and many I know had similar goals at that time. It's actually not that rare tbh.

Sometimes it comes down to parents (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but the student usually has interest too (well, I did in any case).

I think I've probably talked to you about this before, but it does depend on a lot of factors, that's why of everyone at Melbourne High, pretty much the upper class of the schooling population at a Year 8 level, there are still those who fail to get a good mark and do rather lacklustre in VCE. It has to do with the school, but not everything.

Parents - well that's a questionable discussion - it's generally good, but dependency is a bad thing - some students are very dependent on their parents to do well and in the end, sometimes they're not gonna be around forever.

Student interest is far more important - in the end it's your life, what you want to do with it is your decision, like this goes out to everyone else discussing this minor subtopic, it's very difficult to know what you want at a young age, however, by the time you're in Year 12 and are 17-18, you really should know what you want to do and take responsibility for it, in my opinion.

[msantorini]

I guess it is the best that you should be able to just do your best and be able to accept defeat. It is not right to judge others or compare them to your personal standing because in the end what matters is what YOU yourself have achieved no matter what school you are from, it is the learning that really counts and you have to be able to be at peace with yourself so that you will be able to really excel in your chosen field.

[paulsterio]

Not exactly and btw, you've completely missed the point of the discussion, which really has nothing to do with being at peace with ourselves.

[charmanderp]

It seems that Peanuts is insinuating that if you don't go to a private school, you can't get 99.90+, which is absolute rubbish. There are well over 100 students in this state capable of getting 99.90+, and those that don't will have failed to do so more due to a lack of hard work OR just being really unlucky through dropping marks where they probably shouldn't have, more so than they will have been prevented by a lack of private schooling.

I'm glad that I go to a public school. It's taught me how to fend for myself and how I need to control my own life in order to get anywhere. I had the choice to go the MHS in Year 9, which I turned down, and I certainly don't regret it in relation to my potential ATAR.

[charmanderp]

It seems that Peanuts is insinuating that if you don't go to a private school, you can't get 99.90+, which is absolute rubbish. There are well over 100 students in this state capable of getting 99.90+, and those that don't will have failed to do so more due to a lack of hard work OR just being really unlucky through dropping marks where they probably shouldn't have, than they will have been prevented by not attending a private school.

I'm glad that I go to a public school. It's taught me how to fend for myself and how I need to control my own life in order to get anywhere. I had the choice to go the MHS in Year 9, which I turned down, and I certainly don't regret it in relation to my potential ATAR.

[paulsterio]

I'm glad that I go to a public school. It's taught me how to fend for myself and how I need to control my own life in order to get anywhere. I had the choice to go the MHS in Year 9, which I turned down, and I certainly don't regret it in relation to my potential ATAR.

Yep, same here, glad I come from a private school too, also chose not to go to MHS.

Public school pride

[thushan]

Very quick 2 cents here - but personally moving to a private school in Year 9 was one of the best moves I made in my life. Pastoral care was amazing, classmates were extremely supportive and generally highly motivated - that kinda helps you to study. Having said that, I did come from a public school in the northern suburbs that was struggling a fair bit - but of late it's starting to do relatively well!

[pi]

Also, MHS is a public school...

[charmanderp]

Indeed it is.