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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #180 on: September 22, 2012, 06:26:40 pm »
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I can't believe Adelaide were paying at around 6 bucks! RIDICULOUS odds for a preliminary final in which the two clubs finished 1&2 and won the same amount of games.
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« Reply #181 on: September 22, 2012, 06:48:23 pm »
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They're still at $3.75, which is hilarious and if I was willing to relax my no betting on sports rule, I would put money on at that price >.<

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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #182 on: September 23, 2012, 07:11:27 am »
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I can't believe Adelaide were paying at around 6 bucks! RIDICULOUS odds for a preliminary final in which the two clubs finished 1&2 and won the same amount of games.

Bit of a hindsight bias there. Hawthorn have been in amazing form and had smashed Collingwood two weeks ago whilst Adelaide looked like they were struggling in the finals atmosphere against Sydney and Freo. Great game last night but going on pre-game form, no one could give Adelaide a chance.

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« Reply #183 on: September 23, 2012, 09:40:37 am »
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Erm, we posted those comments before half time.

Adelaide were overpriced at $6, no two ways about it

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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #184 on: September 23, 2012, 02:05:41 pm »
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The odds at the start of the game were at $6, at half time those odds shortened. At the start of the game they weren't overpriced.

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« Reply #185 on: September 23, 2012, 03:58:36 pm »
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We may have to agree to disagree here, but as much as I hate to be results oriented, yes...yes they were. Gold Coast got better odds than $6 throughout the season.

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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #186 on: September 23, 2012, 06:09:51 pm »
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Collingwho?
Collingwood.
Love this. I skimmed through the first 3-4 pages of this thread, gold. The reason why Collingwood is so hated in the modern era - Eddie McGuire, he has turned the club from a shambles to one of the powerhouses of the competition. You guys are oozing jealously. Seriously, for anyone to still come out and disrespect the club for what has been a great achievement considering all that has happened this year is idiotic - especially the past few weeks. Funny, how a many of you are Bombers and Blues fans 'oh no but we have injuries, have you seen our injury list?' get over it guys, did you take a look at WCE or Collingwood's injuries? The class and experience lacking from the latter sides for extended periods of the season are similar to that of the formers... And guess what? The latter were able to get through those injuries and still make finals and have an impact. Where did the former finish? Bottom 10 reflecting on what could've been.
Bucks has done an incredible job this season, 4 ACLs to best 22 players, 4 or so shoulder injuries and many 4-6 week injuries to the gun players throughout the season are tough particularly Pendles, Swan, Thomas, Reid, Brown, Tarrant, Dids, Johnson. The lack of continuity definitely messed around with the personnel to implement the game plan and the inconsistency in performances. Adding to this, to blood a good 5-7 players throughout the year has been another valuable point, I believe we played 35-37 players this season and only GWS and GC exceeded that.
Sure, it's a disappointment losing in the preliminary final but round 4/5/6 there were doubters some flogs were suggesting that Collingwood wouldn't make top 8, that Bucks needs to be sacked, that there is a riff in the playing group and so on. Making the preliminary final is a big middle finger up at you all, a big F*** You! Again, haters going to hate, personnel from opposition clubs and management envy what Collingwood have been able to do in the past decade, but hey that's all we need - being acknowledge by the professionals is all that matters, a majority of supporters are bandwagoning flogs who come out of the closet when the club wins a few games then shy away when shit hits the fan. Face it, you are somewhat, somehow jealous of the Collingwood Football Club.
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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #187 on: September 23, 2012, 06:12:26 pm »
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« Reply #188 on: September 23, 2012, 06:18:20 pm »
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We may have to agree to disagree here, but as much as I hate to be results oriented, yes...yes they were. Gold Coast got better odds than $6 throughout the season.

I'm happy to agree to disagree. Admittingly I didn't really attention to how much Adelaide were paying to win, I was more interested in what the line was. When the market opened at 30 something points I thought the Hawks were certainties after beating Collingwood by 38. Before last night I thought Collingwood were a better side than Adelaide for sure.

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« Reply #189 on: September 23, 2012, 07:14:47 pm »
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The reason why Collingwood is so hated in the modern era - Eddie McGuire, he has turned the club from a shambles to one of the powerhouses of the competition. You guys are oozing jealously.

Powerhouse? You mean the team that keeps choking in the finals? Collingwood are averaging a premiership every 25 years in the past 50 years. Great sides like Brisbane (early 2000s), Hawthorn (2008 and now) and Geelong win multiple flags in their window of opportunity. What have Collingwood done? Win a grand final replay?

I keep hearing about how Collingwood had a tough draw. Tell me more about how 17 MCG games takes a toll...
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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #190 on: September 23, 2012, 07:34:38 pm »
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Collingwho?
Collingwood.
Funny, how a many of you are Bombers and Blues fans 'oh no but we have injuries, have you seen our injury list?' get over it guys, did you take a look at WCE or Collingwood's injuries? The class and experience lacking from the latter sides for extended periods of the season are similar to that of the formers... And guess what? The latter were able to get through those injuries and still make finals and have an impact. Where did the former finish? Bottom 10 reflecting on what could've been.

Essendon has more premierships along with Carlton. Making them the greatest teams out there. (I'm a bombers supporter.)
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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #191 on: September 23, 2012, 08:05:08 pm »
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The reason why Collingwood is so hated in the modern era - Eddie McGuire, he has turned the club from a shambles to one of the powerhouses of the competition. You guys are oozing jealously.

Powerhouse? You mean the team that keeps choking in the finals? Collingwood are averaging a premiership every 25 years in the past 50 years. Great sides like Brisbane (early 2000s), Hawthorn (2008 and now) and Geelong win multiple flags in their window of opportunity. What have Collingwood done? Win a grand final replay?


'Modern era' being the key word there. Powerhouse doesnt necessarily mean winning Grand Finals either. Record breaking levels of membership, with what, just a casual 70k in 2011, you would think classify the Pies as a Powerhouse of AFL in the modern era dont you think?
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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #192 on: September 23, 2012, 08:15:17 pm »
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Sorry collingwood, better luck next year :D!!! I'm just kidding hope collingwood doesn't make top 8 for another 5 years.
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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #193 on: September 23, 2012, 08:58:54 pm »
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Sorry collingwood, better luck next year :D!!! I'm just kidding hope collingwood doesn't make top 8 for another 5 years.

Make that 50 years :D

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Re: Collingwho?
« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2012, 09:39:47 pm »
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Collingwho?
Collingwood.
Funny, how a many of you are Bombers and Blues fans 'oh no but we have injuries, have you seen our injury list?' get over it guys, did you take a look at WCE or Collingwood's injuries? The class and experience lacking from the latter sides for extended periods of the season are similar to that of the formers... And guess what? The latter were able to get through those injuries and still make finals and have an impact. Where did the former finish? Bottom 10 reflecting on what could've been.

Essendon has more premierships along with Carlton. Making them the greatest teams out there. (I'm a bombers supporter.)
This is all I hear from Essendon and Carlton supporters oh we have 16 flags yay. So what? Winning premierships is cumulative, what if Ninthmond win the next 15 flags, they'll be above the 'oh so godly Bombers and Blues and their 16 flags' I hope this never happens.... Ninthmond's flag is finishing 9th...


The reason why Collingwood is so hated in the modern era - Eddie McGuire, he has turned the club from a shambles to one of the powerhouses of the competition. You guys are oozing jealously.

Powerhouse? You mean the team that keeps choking in the finals? Collingwood are averaging a premiership every 25 years in the past 50 years. Great sides like Brisbane (early 2000s), Hawthorn (2008 and now) and Geelong win multiple flags in their window of opportunity. What have Collingwood done? Win a grand final replay?

I keep hearing about how Collingwood had a tough draw. Tell me more about how 17 MCG games takes a toll...
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Re: powerhouse see Kaz's comments

Have you seen the Brisbane team in the early 2000's? Their team was ridiculously good, the concessions and support they got from the AFL were crazy. How they were able to contain that many high caliber players is insane.
Geelong, from what I've heard not one player gets paid over 550k or so p.a. that's what drove their success, commitment to a common goal. Superstar team no doubt.
What of those teams? They have been the most successful teams in the past decade with their dynasties.

Re: your news breaking stat. Let me break this down for you, Collingwood won a majority of their flags before the 1950s if you want to play this game then they were the most dominant team in the early years of the game. But ever since then it has been many final campaigns ending with suffering and inner pain, for players, coaches and supporters. 1958 then 1990 the last 2 flags before 2010. Ok brief history lesson, Collingwood were in major strife in the 1990's it was really dark days for the club, which is why I say in the modern era they are so hated and why they are such a powerhouse now. Largest supporter base, arguably the biggest club in the nation, now have some of the best facilities and pre-season programs. All on the back of Eddie McGuire's commitment and passion for the club, the man bleeds black and white. I don't give a fuck what people say about him, he is the reason why Collingwood is what it is today - best President out there.
Ok...... Hawks shouldn't even be put in the same sentence as Geelong and Brisbane.... There is Brisbane and Geelong then daylight then more daylight then some more daylight then Collingwood/Hawthorn. What have Hawthorn done? let's see... 08' triumphantly won the flag, good job, 09' did not make finals. 10' iirc, they barely made top 8 and got knocked out first week. 11' made the prelim and got knocked out by Collingwood in a thriller and perhaps the real GF. 12' dominated the competition should win the flag.
Seriously, how can these 4-5 years compare to the Geelong and Brisbane dynasties?
I wasn't talking about premierships when I mentioned powerhouse, all I was trying to say was that Collingwood is now one of the premier clubs as it is one of the biggest with regular finals appearances in this decade, but now you've got me on a rant!
04' and 05' weren't great years for the club, very poor in fact the worst in this decade. 06' knocked out in first week of finals, 07' makes the preliminary final and push Geelong to the limit one of the best games I've seen. 08' lost in the semifinal, 09' lost to Geelong in the prelim, 10' flag nuff said, 11' GF loss, 12' prelim loss. In the past 7 years Collingwood have appeared in 5 preliminary finals, finals chokers? DaFuQ are you talking about choking in finals is Carlton or Essendon in recent years making the 8 then bowing out... I think we are something like 7 preliminary finals in the last 11 years, simply amazing. Success isn't completely measured by flags, yes it is the ultimate end product, but the journey their counts. Collingwood's window is well and truly still open, even with some big names reaching 30~ in the next couple of years. If you think this is the end, you're wrong the quality and talent in the list got us through this year imo, if Buckley can get things going next year will be tough for opposition sides.
Hmm.. Playing the highly rated teams of this season twice. Hm..... What will that do to a side? Nah nothing don't worry about it guys, you know with the injuries already sustained, it should be a breeze. lol yup definitely an easy run even tho it's at the G!..

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