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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2012, 12:01:26 am »
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ion dipole, as dipoles are just partial charges, whereas ions have full charges
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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2012, 12:15:19 am »
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Oh woops, i put the wrong question, sorry.

here's what i'm stuck on: What volume of water must be added to 10.0 mL of the stock solution to make standard 3?




10ml ---> std 3 (dilution, so amount of moles stay the same)





And since we're looking for volume of water added:

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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2012, 12:19:56 am »
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Thanks :)
Oh, could you explain this first part, i'm a bit confused about it. I thought concentration of standard 3 was given as 1.00X10-3, so why do we need to divide by 368?
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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2012, 12:47:13 am »
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@Laseredd, you seem to be doing the dilution question in a very round-about way.







Thus 390mL should be added.
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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2012, 10:44:28 am »
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@Laseredd, you seem to be doing the dilution question in a very round-about way.







Thus 390mL should be added.

Oh, could you explain this first part, i'm a bit confused about it. I thought concentration of standard 3 was given as 1.00X10-3, so why do we need to divide by 368?
Ah, I converted the value to molarity and didn't pay notice to the simpler way of just using g/L like Mao pointed out.

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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2012, 10:48:36 am »
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I get it now, thanks for the help guys :)
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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2012, 05:26:13 pm »
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When deciding on which values to use as concordant titres, what's the range it has to be within? +- 0.1ml?
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« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2012, 05:51:48 pm »
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Yep, the highest and lowest titres should be within 0.10mL from each other (all other titres should be in between these two).

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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2012, 06:21:04 pm »
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okay thanks, and what if there's only 2 results that lie within 0.1ml of each other, do we just use the two? or does averaging concordant titres require 3 results?
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« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2012, 06:24:02 pm »
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okay thanks, and what if there's only 2 results that lie within 0.1ml of each other, do we just use the two? or does averaging concordant titres require 3 results?

Just use the two

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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #85 on: June 04, 2012, 06:26:16 pm »
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In the production of an ester, 50.0 mL of ethanol was mixed with 50.0 mL of ethanoic
acid. The reaction was catalysed with concentrated sulphuric acid. The ester produced
was collected by distillation.

Write a balanced equation for the esterification reaction.
CH3CH2OH(l) + CH3COOH(l) → CH3COOCH2CH3(l) + H2O(l)

Why is ethanol and ethanoic acid in liquid state?
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« Reply #86 on: June 04, 2012, 06:28:15 pm »
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If water is produced, I'd imagine that to make the equation useful it'd be kinda pointless reacting aqueous solutions together. Furthermore, I believe esterification needs pure reactants (I think).

Why do you think they shouldn't be liquid?

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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #87 on: June 04, 2012, 06:31:04 pm »
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If water is produced, I'd imagine that to make the equation useful it'd be kinda pointless reacting aqueous solutions together. Furthermore, I believe esterification needs pure reactants (I think).

Why do you think they shouldn't be liquid?
I thought that because ethanol and ethanoic acid are in solution (50 ml), they should be aqueous?
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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #88 on: June 04, 2012, 06:32:34 pm »
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I can't see "solution" in the question stem you typed out :S Both can be liquid unless they are mixed with water (they are liquids or very close to being pure liquids naturally).


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Re: Soccerboi's questions thread
« Reply #89 on: June 04, 2012, 06:40:52 pm »
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Oh i just inferred that because it's 50ml of it, that it's in aqueous solution. So it has to state the word "solution" to be aqueous?
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