Forced abortion

[JellyDonut]

Fine, investing in infrastructure which will induce better living, health and educational conditions. Investment in farming equipment so that farmers don't have to rely on large families.

[ktrah]

If a woman really wants to have an abortion, she should do so early in the pregnancy. Why wait until you're 8 months pregnant before deciding you don't want the baby? I think that a woman choosing to have an abortion during the third trimester should be required to give a good reason to the satisfaction of the doctor.

Why does she need a "good" reason? Surely if she can find a doctor willing to perform the operation, then that should be the end of the matter?

At eight months, it's a baby. Do you think it's okay to kill a newborn baby if you can find a doctor willing to do so? Because that's basically the same thing as aborting an eight month old fetus. I'm generally pro-abortion for many of the reasons already listed in this thread, but seriously at eight months pregnant the mother has had ample time to decide whether she is going to have the baby.

[Flying Emu]

Fine, investing in infrastructure which will induce better living, health and educational conditions. Investment in farming equipment so that farmers don't have to rely on large families.

China is how big? That would require a large sum of cash and time. By the time that happens China would have already overpopulated.

[ninwa]

I worded it wrongly.

You do that a lot don't you!

You seem to word things wrongly pretty often, just putting it out there you know

Can you guys stop with this crap please?

[JellyDonut]

Nope, women fertility rates in China has declined over the past 50 years to ~1.5 and by investing, you're only speeding up a process that is already occuring. Far more worthwhile than developing an entire government arm just to watch over people's breeding habits.

If link works:
http://www.google.com.au/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CHN&ifdim=region&tstart=-301226400000&tend=1308146400000&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=fertility+rates+china

[Flying Emu]

A single law, not an entire government arm. Anyway we have plenty of people to watch over breeding habits (hence we get data like the one u just posted).

Nope, women fertility rates in China has declined over the past 50 years to ~1.5 and by investing, you're only speeding up a process that is already occuring.

"Nope" infers a rebuttal.

"you're only speeding up a process that is already occurring" [China's falling fertility rates]. So I'm helping the over population problem now am I?

"Far more worthwhile than developing an entire government arm just to watch over people's breeding habits." So your agreeing with it.

At the start you rebut, at the end u agree? Or did i misinterpret your wording?

[paulsterio]

I think the more developed a country is, the less need families have for lots of children. I understand that in some parts of the world, lots of children = large family = more work done, but that mentality doesn't work as much anymore when a country becomes developed.

So, I reckon as China becomes developed, the issue will gradually solve itself

Btw, Flying Emu, I still think polygamy is more acceptable than forced abortions, lesser of two evils

[Russ]

How is polygamy evil? Wut.

At eight months, it's a baby. Do you think it's okay to kill a newborn baby if you can find a doctor willing to do so? Because that's basically the same thing as aborting an eight month old fetus. I'm generally pro-abortion for many of the reasons already listed in this thread, but seriously at eight months pregnant the mother has had ample time to decide whether she is going to have the baby.

Did you read any of the posts where I explained my stance on when I believe abortion is acceptable?

[Flying Emu]

Btw, Flying Emu, I still think polygamy is more acceptable than forced abortions, lesser of two evils

I guess it isn't fair to call polygamy 'evil'. It really depends on an individuals religion and beliefs.

[ktrah]

At eight months, it's a baby. Do you think it's okay to kill a newborn baby if you can find a doctor willing to do so? Because that's basically the same thing as aborting an eight month old fetus. I'm generally pro-abortion for many of the reasons already listed in this thread, but seriously at eight months pregnant the mother has had ample time to decide whether she is going to have the baby.

Did you read any of the posts where I explained my stance on when I believe abortion is acceptable?

Lol I did and I think I agreed with most of them, although everyone's views have sort of meshed into one. I just disagree with what you said in that particular post (sorry if I've misunderstood you).

[paulsterio]

How is polygamy evil? Wut.

I just personally don't like it, I reckon one partner at a time, idk, just personal
Not that I don't accept other views, but I just feel that for me, I wouldn't want to be sharing partners, if you know what I mean.

[Flying Emu]

At eight months, it's a baby. Do you think it's okay to kill a newborn baby if you can find a doctor willing to do so? Because that's basically the same thing as aborting an eight month old fetus. I'm generally pro-abortion for many of the reasons already listed in this thread, but seriously at eight months pregnant the mother has had ample time to decide whether she is going to have the baby.

Did you read any of the posts where I explained my stance on when I believe abortion is acceptable?

Lol I did and I think I agreed with most of them, although everyone's views have sort of meshed into one. I just disagree with what you said in that particular post (sorry if I've misunderstood you).

She did say "...should be required to give a good reason to the satisfaction of the doctor.".

Being completely "pro-abortion for many of the reasons" is kind of narrow minded. There could be perfectly moral reasons which could prove to be the greatest benefit if the abortion goes ahead.

[Flying Emu]

How is polygamy evil? Wut.

I just personally don't like it, I reckon one partner at a time, idk, just personal
Not that I don't accept other views, but I just feel that for me, I wouldn't want to be sharing partners, if you know what I mean.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it evil =/

[paulsterio]

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it evil =/

I know I know, it was too much of a knee-jerk reaction from me, just because in Australia polygamy is illegal. Just reminded me of girlfriends/boyfriends cheating, ugh, bad images.

Sorry

[ktrah]

She did say "...should be required to give a good reason to the satisfaction of the doctor.".

Being completely "pro-abortion for many of the reasons" is kind of narrow minded. There could be perfectly moral reasons which could prove to be the greatest benefit if the abortion goes ahead.

No she (well actually I'm pretty sure he's a guy haha) didn't, that was Special. And I'm not completely pro-abortion, but I don't understand what you said after that (sounds like you're saying there are situations where abortion could be a good thing, but that's a bit contradictory to what you were saying?).