Difficulty of getting H1s

[pi]

Thanks for the reply guys. May I ask why is it so hard to get a HD at Monash?

I just find it's nearly impossible. I'm working harder than I did in VCE and I doubt I will ever get there

But then again, I only have one exam for the semester, so they make it pretty damn tough (and the cohort is extremely bright - if using ATARs is a good reference).

(or maybe I'm just not very good...)

I guess it's all applications on the exam?

Not all, the exam is like 80% multi-choice (some MCQs are "application" I guess) and the short-answer is all sociology, ethics, law, etc.

The real issue is that if you are a student who only knows the big ideas of each topic (pharma, anatomy, etc.), you are going to fail - and people who were a lot more successful than me in VCE have already failed the midsem and the assignment. They only examine on the specifics and random facts, so most of that study goes to "waste" in terms of exam usefulness.

Oh well, at least I'm enjoying it, I guess that's the main thing

[b^3]

Just for those others who are reading this thread, and not say planning on biomed, I would like to make the point that it will also depend on the degree/units. ROTE learning doesn't work for everything, e.g. for engineering (besides materials) you have to understand the concepts and be able to apply what you've learnt, be ready for different situations, you can't just rote learn the course, it just doesn't work that way. H1s/HD aren't that easy, depending on the unit/course, (with that being said I'm still awaiting results, but have a feeling that 2/4 units I won't get such a great score from).

A lot of people completely bomb out in Uni after doing year 12, i don't know why but I guess they just start to get lazy after such a long holiday. I'd say most work pretty hard though, because we all want a good GPA

That (as said above by russ) is probably due to the jump from VCE. Some students have had all these tutors and all this pressure from parents e.t.c for them to do well in VCE, then they get to uni, and its up to them now, they don't have tutors there to help them, they don't have the pressure behind them.

In the end, its just putting consistent work in throughout the semester that will get you there. But with that being said, different courses are easier or harder and have to be approached in different ways.

[Soul_Khan]

I've always been an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

[pi]

I've always be an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

A massive advantage. Uni is all about self-directed learning imo.

[Starlight]

I've always be an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

A massive advantage. Uni is all about self-directed learning imo.

Yeah it's not really about teachers hand feeding material to you. Tutorials are probably most like classroom teaching in high school

[MJRomeo81]

I've always be an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

Advantage. That's me in a nutshell and I had a great first semester at Uni. In Uni it's up to YOU to find the answers. If you get used to that earlier (like I did) it certainly helps and you aren't freaked out at exam time like some of my other friends who always relied on guidance throughout VCE.

I've always be an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

A massive advantage. Uni is all about self-directed learning imo.

Yeah it's not really about teachers hand feeding material to you. Tutorials are probably most like classroom teaching in high school

IDK about you guys but most tutors aren't that good. Especially first year, many tutors are grad students and don't give a damn.

In a few of my units I was thrown in the deep end (no textbook, crap lecture slides, 70% exam, etc.) so it was up to me to find resources and teach myself.

[Starlight]

I guess i was pretty lucky with my tutors for this semester (only had bio and chem though). Except my chem tutes were pretty annoying mainly because of the students just talking the whole time that couldn't care less. My prac demonstrator for chem was awful though, I couldn't understand her sometimes because she had a really thick accent and wouldn't straight up answer your questions.

[pi]

I've always be an independent learner (not bragging or anything). I've never had a tutor and get minimal help from the teachers even when I sometimes need it I like to usually just try to find out the answers on my own using the internet or my textbook and usually only understand when I've taught myself the material rather then someone else teaching me.. would this be an advantage or a disadvantage in Uni?

A massive advantage. Uni is all about self-directed learning imo.

Yeah it's not really about teachers hand feeding material to you. Tutorials are probably most like classroom teaching in high school

IDK about you guys but most tutors aren't that good. Especially first year, many tutors are grad students and don't give a damn.

:O All my tutors so far are like professionals (ie. work in the medical field with most having MBBS or MD or equivalent).

Maybe it's a course-by-course thing?

[soccerboi]

Just out of curiosity, what's H1s?

[anonymous1]

Just out of curiosity, what's H1s?

It's a university grade basically if you get anywhere between 80-100 % you get a H1 and on a 7 gpa scale you score a 7. Then there is H2A which is between 75-79% and you score a 6.5 on the 7 point gpa scale and so on.

[pi]

And at Monash:
High Distinction = HD = 80-100
Distinction = D = 70-79
Credit = C = 60-69
Pass = P = 50-59
Near Pass = NP(?) = 45-49
Fail = <45



And over in NZ, they use A+, A, A-, B+, B, B-, C+, etc.

[kensan]

Is the UoM gpa scale out of 7?
My careers councilor emailed UoM about Doctor of Dental surgery (gpa 6.5 minimum), and they said a gpa of 6.5 was equivalent to 92% average, but it seems like that is wrong?

[Starlight]

The complete unimelb grading scheme is;

H1 (80-100)%
H2A (75-79)
H2B (70-74)
H3 (65-69)
P (50-64)
Fail (0-49)
NH (not completed/ fail)
Fl (fail)
etc.

[b^3]

And at Monash:
High Distinction = HD = 80-100
Distinction = D = 70-79
Credit = C = 60-69
Pass = P = 50-59
Near Pass = NP(?) = 45-49
Fail = <45



And over in NZ, they use A+, A, A-, B+, B, B-, C+, etc.

Corresponding to GPA levels of
HD - 4.0
D   - 3.0
C   - 2.0
P    - 1.0
F    - 0.3

(Yes Monash and UoM calculate GPA differently, different systems)

EDIT: Read what Russ said.

[anonymous1]

near pass? Really? Why wouldn't they just call it pass since you didn't fail so you obviously passed not nearly passed lol that;s a very funny grade-near pass