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For the context piece, if we choose to write a persuasive piece, can we write it in first person?

Well, can you write a persuasive piece in first person? Why are you asking us about your own abilities? We don't know what you can and can't do.

If you meant may you write it in first person - then yes - you may write it in first person on the exam.

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For the context piece, if we choose to write a persuasive piece, can we write it in first person?

Well, can you write a persuasive piece in first person? Why are you asking us about your own abilities? We don't know what you can and can't do.

If you meant may you write it in first person - then yes - you may write it in first person on the exam.
That's nitpicky...
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Hahaha, yeah I know, but I thought it was funny because we're on an English board, plus my methods teacher hammered the difference between can and may into my head because she got annoyed every time someone in the class asked "can I go to the toilet" or "can I borrow your calculator"...etc. :P

She would be like "you can go to the toilet of course, but you may not" :P

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Hahaha, yeah I know, but I thought it was funny because we're on an English board, plus my methods teacher hammered the difference between can and may into my head because she got annoyed every time someone in the class asked "can I go to the toilet" or "can I borrow your calculator"...etc. :P

She would be like "you can go to the toilet of course, but you may not" :P
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For the context piece, if we choose to write a persuasive piece, can we write it in first person?

Well, can you write a persuasive piece in first person? Why are you asking us about your own abilities? We don't know what you can and can't do.

If you meant may you write it in first person - then yes - you may write it in first person on the exam.

Seriously...I barely comment on here but I continuously see these comments from you- but that's web forums I guess.
Also think the attack (and it did sound like an attack) on the lovephysics guy/girl (and/or both) was a bit harsh...It was only an opinion, and not everyone (including yourself) backs up their opinions.

Personally I've been told a good creative piece will score higher than a good expository piece too- and even that it is harder to write an expository piece that will be looked at as a 9/10 alongside creative. My school spent a whole class on this very topic (I wont say fact) which include VCE assessors also. I also think it makes sense, context writing is about showing your skills as a writer, not entirely your analytical strengths. Creative writing ALLOWS for more depth than expository, which in turn shows the depth of your ability to write something in an hour.

This doesn't mean creative is the way to go, because an awful creative piece is still awful. In this way, playing to the strengths is the right way to do it - However if you're hands are tied between the two styles, I (personally) would either try to hybrid, or to lean more towards creative writing. Take a look at the 2011 assessor's report for English, particularly for Whose Reality and it'll show between the mid-range and upper-range responses.

But seriously, when it comes down to it...Practise with both and stick with the one you prefer...Simple.

To answer the OP directly, I think creative characteristics in your writing is a lot more engaging than a standard expository response (which can sometimes be dull and dry.) Things like use of anecdotes and analogies when giving your response goes a long way in separating your expository piece from the likes of ones that get read over by assessors with no second thought, because it's "too standard", albeit the ideas are good.

But, I should emphasize this to avoid having my head hunted by certain users. This is entirely "MY OPINION."

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For example do you have to start your introduction with lyrics from a song or write your piece in a letter to the editor style or diary entries or use really unknown social parallels to make your piece really stand out....

...or can you just do a simple, well-balanced, deeply explored expository piece and still get a good mark?

Simple answer, you piece must be ORIGINAL. This will make your piece STAND OUT. Whether that be through writing creatively as a form, or be through writing a straight expository that explores the prompt in fascinating ways, it doesn't really matter, as long as it's original.

In terms of the forms, I has always told that the best 10/10 pieces were in this order: creative > creative/expos hybrid > expos > persuasive. No evidence to support it, except that I've been told this by multiple teachers and successful students. The logic behind it simple: which is it easier to be original about? Creative pieces are nearly always highly original (as they should be) whilst at the other end of the spectrum, we have persuasive which just through its form, is a restricted way to approach the prompt.

Just my 2 cents, but the most important thing is to be original imo :)

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Seriously...I barely comment on here but I continuously see these comments from you- but that's web forums I guess.
Also think the attack (and it did sound like an attack) on the lovephysics guy/girl (and/or both) was a bit harsh...It was only an opinion, and not everyone (including yourself) backs up their opinions.

Personally I've been told a good creative piece will score higher than a good expository piece too- and even that it is harder to write an expository piece that will be looked at as a 9/10 alongside creative. My school spent a whole class on this very topic (I wont say fact) which include VCE assessors also. I also think it makes sense, context writing is about showing your skills as a writer, not entirely your analytical strengths. Creative writing ALLOWS for more depth than expository, which in turn shows the depth of your ability to write something in an hour.

This doesn't mean creative is the way to go, because an awful creative piece is still awful. In this way, playing to the strengths is the right way to do it - However if you're hands are tied between the two styles, I (personally) would either try to hybrid, or to lean more towards creative writing. Take a look at the 2011 assessor's report for English, particularly for Whose Reality and it'll show between the mid-range and upper-range responses.

But seriously, when it comes down to it...Practise with both and stick with the one you prefer...Simple.

To answer the OP directly, I think creative characteristics in your writing is a lot more engaging than a standard expository response (which can sometimes be dull and dry.) Things like use of anecdotes and analogies when giving your response goes a long way in separating your expository piece from the likes of ones that get read over by assessors with no second thought, because it's "too standard", albeit the ideas are good.

But, I should emphasize this to avoid having my head hunted by certain users. This is entirely "MY OPINION."

"It was only an opinion" - well you can't exactly have opinions here, because they're potentially misleading. There are many things I can give opinions about as well - I can easily say that Expository is far better than Creative. But I won't say that because I know it's not substantiated by evidence. Whenever I try to write something to do with how exams are marked, I always have sources to back up what I say - don't believe me? Well check out the Maths and Physics boards and look at the exam tips that I provide, I can always source them back to a reputable source, whether it be a book, a study guide or the Examiner's Report - so don't go around accusing me of giving opinions - because they are not opinions. Cheers.

No, what can't you get? Ffs, a good creative piece will score higher than a good expository because that creative piece was better than the expository. That's my reasoning of the situation anyway, either way - find an examiner's report which suggests that writing a creative is better. I will bet my bottom dollar you won't be able to find any evidence because, boo-hoo, I've already looked.

Secondly, I disagree - I have read many strong expository pieces, very well written, in just amazing language - you can't argue that creative writing allows more depth - that is just a false statement, both forms can offer depth.

Also lastly, I do agree with you - stick with the one you prefer, at least that shows you have some sense and just don't blindly listen to mere hearsay.

Headhunting? You have got to be kidding me, since when did I attack anybody as a person? I have the full right to attack an idea if I don't agree with it - which was the case here. I know somebody who wrote an expository and got 10/10. They wrote a standard expository - with few creative elements - it was slightly more laid-back than a text response, but defs not hybrid. I fully stand by the view that creative is not necessarily better than expository.

Note that I said "not necessarily" - just saying so I don't get accused and downvoted by assholes who think they can just downvote whatever they want.

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In terms of the forms, I has always told that the best 10/10 pieces were in this order: creative > creative/expos hybrid > expos > persuasive.

Tell that to Andrew Bolt!

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Seriously...I barely comment on here but I continuously see these comments from you- but that's web forums I guess.
Also think the attack (and it did sound like an attack) on the lovephysics guy/girl (and/or both) was a bit harsh...It was only an opinion, and not everyone (including yourself) backs up their opinions.

Personally I've been told a good creative piece will score higher than a good expository piece too- and even that it is harder to write an expository piece that will be looked at as a 9/10 alongside creative. My school spent a whole class on this very topic (I wont say fact) which include VCE assessors also. I also think it makes sense, context writing is about showing your skills as a writer, not entirely your analytical strengths. Creative writing ALLOWS for more depth than expository, which in turn shows the depth of your ability to write something in an hour.

This doesn't mean creative is the way to go, because an awful creative piece is still awful. In this way, playing to the strengths is the right way to do it - However if you're hands are tied between the two styles, I (personally) would either try to hybrid, or to lean more towards creative writing. Take a look at the 2011 assessor's report for English, particularly for Whose Reality and it'll show between the mid-range and upper-range responses.

But seriously, when it comes down to it...Practise with both and stick with the one you prefer...Simple.

To answer the OP directly, I think creative characteristics in your writing is a lot more engaging than a standard expository response (which can sometimes be dull and dry.) Things like use of anecdotes and analogies when giving your response goes a long way in separating your expository piece from the likes of ones that get read over by assessors with no second thought, because it's "too standard", albeit the ideas are good.

But, I should emphasize this to avoid having my head hunted by certain users. This is entirely "MY OPINION."

"It was only an opinion" - well you can't exactly have opinions here, because they're potentially misleading. There are many things I can give opinions about as well - I can easily say that Expository is far better than Creative. But I won't say that because I know it's not substantiated by evidence. Whenever I try to write something to do with how exams are marked, I always have sources to back up what I say - don't believe me? Well check out the Maths and Physics boards and look at the exam tips that I provide, I can always source them back to a reputable source, whether it be a book, a study guide or the Examiner's Report - so don't go around accusing me of giving opinions - because they are not opinions. Cheers.

No, what can't you get? Ffs, a good creative piece will score higher than a good expository because that creative piece was better than the expository. That's my reasoning of the situation anyway, either way - find an examiner's report which suggests that writing a creative is better. I will bet my bottom dollar you won't be able to find any evidence because, boo-hoo, I've already looked.

Secondly, I disagree - I have read many strong expository pieces, very well written, in just amazing language - you can't argue that creative writing allows more depth - that is just a false statement, both forms can offer depth.

Also lastly, I do agree with you - stick with the one you prefer, at least that shows you have some sense and just don't blindly listen to mere hearsay.

Headhunting? You have got to be kidding me, since when did I attack anybody as a person? I have the full right to attack an idea if I don't agree with it - which was the case here. I know somebody who wrote an expository and got 10/10. They wrote a standard expository - with few creative elements - it was slightly more laid-back than a text response, but defs not hybrid. I fully stand by the view that creative is not necessarily better than expository.

Note that I said "not necessarily" - just saying so I don't get accused and downvoted by assholes who think they can just downvote whatever they want.

Settle down buddy..You say you don't attack other users but you call me an asshole as well as question my "sense".
You DO give opinions, the question is asking for opinions- you don't have any proof in what you're saying just like I don't have any, because for topics such as these you can't state an outright fact.

I listed my sources, that's as good as I can..I also didnt say expository couldn't score well, just as a creative piece can be awful, an expository piece can be excellent.

The bottom line is that we disagree on something, I definitely think a strong creative piece will be looked better upon as opposed to a strong expository piece, I also believe both can equally score 10/10 regardless. I will stand by that too.

I also see where you're coming from, you've been through the exam process and obviously done your research and you have your opinions based on that- but they are not facts, just as mine are not.

So please, stop acting like a child- just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to repudiate whatever they say...Just like you they may have done their research, as I have. Its an internet forum-settle down, sit back and learn to accept what other people have to say, and that you may (or may not) be wrong, or at least not entirely right.

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Hiya~!

When I'm writing my context expository piece, does my introduction have to be very structured? Like is it necessary for me to state my contention at teh beginning, then list my 3 main arguments, or can my introduction just be a whole anecdote?

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Hiya~!

When I'm writing my context expository piece, does my introduction have to be very structured? Like is it necessary for me to state my contention at teh beginning, then list my 3 main arguments, or can my introduction just be a whole anecdote?
It depends on what form your expository piece is. Is it an essay or an article or a speech or what? But I think, of the three AoS, this definitely gives you the most independence to decide the appropriate structure of your essay. Personally my expository essays possess a conclusion which builds a contention without giving more than a little bit away about my main points.
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I am just writing a normal expository essay but with some creative elements like metpahors and anecdotes (sorry I don't know what AoS) is. Usually I learn that we have to state our contention and 3 main arguments in our introduction, but i've seen a lot ofcreative/expostiryo essays with just an anecdote for the intro, no listing of main points or nothing.

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Obviously your introduction has to introduce the ideas which you will be discussing. It doesn't have to be a formal text-response-esque introduction, but do keep in mind the purpose of the introduction. This means that no matter how you write your introduction - whether as an anecdote or as a formal, structured intro, you will need to, in some way, begin introducing and exploring what you will discuss in the body.

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Re: To get a high mark in the context piece, do you have to be very creative?
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2012, 12:01:49 am »
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i have a small query: If a context piece has to be very creative, what specific language devices can be used to enhance the creativity? I'm thinking structurally, not really wordy.
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