Film trailer sparks protests across the Islamic world

[enwiabe]

lol it's not hate speech, it shouldn't be banned.

If you can't see yourself accepting the fact that people will have opinions different to you, and think that it's an appropriate reaction to riot about a movie made by a random idiot that has no effect on society as a whole, then perhaps living in a democratic country which protects its citizens rights is not for you. Just saying.

edit: and tbh, this movie could've been a lot worse. Read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or Mein Kampf, if you want to read REAL hate speech.

I never said it was an appropriate reaction, but I do believe the film should be banned. And thanks Truck, I was yet to be told 'go back to your country' and now you've even done that. Oh and your going to tell me what the majority of Muslim's think about this film?

Clearly most people on AN believe it should remain on the net and they are immovable on this point then so be it. I shall not waste my time, the people who can c it's inappropriateness would c it others won't.

Xenophobia is not tolerated on AN and I am horrified you were subjected to that remark. Truck has been banned for 3 days. This is a public warning to anybody considering xenophobia in their comments.

[Biceps]

I am really fearful of a fight breaking out at Melbourne CBD due to anti-muslim protests on Saturday. I just hope the Muslims that go do not misrepresent us and end up fighting with the other people.
Today most Muslim leaders in Victoria spoke up against the violence and condemned anyone from going.

[ninwa]

It disgusts me that you people are advocating censorship because of some stupid, horribly made film that hurt your feelings. Banning everything that upsets you is NOT free speech. If you are arguing that the film should be banned, don't go around pontificating about how you are for free speech as well. No, you are not.

Also, for the first time in my life I agree with everything Andrew Bolt says and this frightens me

[Starlight]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8536668/muslim-riot-organiser-arrested

[Russ]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/its-a-mistake-im-not-a-bad-mother/story-e6frf7jo-1226478441135

[paulsterio]

Oh an youtube terms and conditions:
We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, sexual orientation/gender identity, or their status as a returned soldier).

yet they refuse to remove the film  you can't have it both ways you-tube either you encourage hate speech or take the damn thing off!

It's not even hate speech, it's just a stupid movie made by an idiot trying to stir trouble, if you wanted to remove all hate speech off youtube, you would be there forever. There are so many other things just like this that don't become big because they don't become viral.

Although I agree that this is not a joke, it doesn't constitute hate speech and surely is not an acceptable excuse for the violence that's been going on.

@Paul define fundamentalists? We are all angry by this so are we all STUPID for being angry? we have no right to be angry? YOU'RE STUPID to say the least.

It's not hard to define a fundamentalist. I don't understand why you didn't google it before asking me, but oh well, I'll do the dirty work for you then. Here.

Yes, you are stupid for being angry. Very stupid. You remind me of immature primary school kids who get angry and throw a tantrum when something doesn't go their way. Do you not realise that one of the reasons why Islam is attacked so often is because you always react in stupid ways?

Yes, you have a right to be angry, I agree with that. But I also have the right to call you stupid for being angry.

I don't understand why you're calling me stupid, if you don't agree with my sentiments that fundamentalist religions are stupid and destroying the world then maybe you should go back to the 10th century. Oh, and here - this might be of use -  http://www.alternet.org/story/151505/how_fundamentalist_religion_is_destroying_the_world

[thushan]

Guys, cool it down.

The guy has a right to be angry, and yes you technically have a right to call him stupid Paul, but that doesn't make your judgement valid. Paul, how would you react if someone's attacked your very way of living, your soft spot, your identity, the way you live your life, the way you define yourself? abcdefghijklmnop has every reason to be angry.

It's only the violence that we're not condoning.

[paulsterio]

Thush, I know your judgement is different to mine and I also acknowledge that my judgement isn't always right, however, I never called him stupid to begin with, I said that those who follow fundamentalist religions are stupid, and the truth is, they are, because fundamentalist religions are the root cause of many of the problems of the world, including the oppression of women in the middle east, the concept of crusades and war on religion, and now this whole violence issue.

I think that it's reasonable to say that fundamentalist religion does more bad than good, especially in this day and age where we should be promoting peaceful co-existence, which fundamentalist religions (I'm not saying fundamentalist Islam here, I'm saying fundamentalist religion in general) often opposes.

abcdefghijklmnop then decided to call me stupid for making a reasonable judgement and proceeds to begin an argument with me and it was him who asked me if it was stupid for him to be angry. I never had the intention of calling anyone stupid to begin with (just fundamentalist religion as a concept), abcdefghijklmnop then decides to make matters personal and involve himself in it. From what I could see, I gave him a reasonable reply, which was that if he is to get angry over something like this (which isn't even attacking him personally) then he is stupid.

It's like me knowing you like Apple Macs, then me making a retarded video about how Steve Jobs was a womaniser and how Apple is an ethically wrong company...etc. If you got angry over that and started throwing bricks at my house because I made a dumb video about something you like (something you agree with...etc.) then that is quite stupid.

Not only should violence be condoned, but anger as well, because anger is the root cause of the violence, if anger is curbed, then the violence would not be necessary in the first place.

[abcdefghijklmnopq]

Hahahahahaha omfg I just watched the movie. What on Earth?! How absurd. I see no reason this should come down. It's almost hilarious that people took that shit seriously. What did I even just watch!

It just shows how stupid fundamentalists are, LOL!

Paul, Brenden suggested that there was no reason for anyone to take the movie seriously (you insult our prophet and we're not supposed to take it seriously?) then you said this shows how stupid fundamentalists are.

But hey, every Muslim is offended by this and did take it seriously, does that make us all fundamentalists and stupid. That was my point, and dude I wasn't literally asking for the definition of fundamentalist.

[Starlight]

I never called him stupid to begin with

Yes, you are stupid for being angry. Very stupid.

 

[brenden]

Hahahahahaha omfg I just watched the movie. What on Earth?! How absurd. I see no reason this should come down. It's almost hilarious that people took that shit seriously. What did I even just watch!

It just shows how stupid fundamentalists are, LOL!

Paul, Brenden suggested that there was no reason for anyone to take the movie seriously (you insult our prophet and we're not supposed to take it seriously?) then you said this shows how stupid fundamentalists are.

But hey, every Muslim is offended by this and did take it seriously, does that make us all fundamentalists and stupid. That was my point, and dude I wasn't literally asking for the definition of fundamentalist.

Every Muslim. Full of shit. You're asking us not to generalise then generalising yourself. I haven't met someone at school that gives a shit - and yes, I've been talking about it a lot.
On the former, you are correct. You compared God to your parents and tbh if someone came up to me and said "your mum is a fat slut and a child molester" I'd laugh in their face. Why would you take it seriously when you know it's wrong?

[Starlight]

TBH I think everyone's expressed their point of views, this thread has merely become a repeat of what we have previously said.

[paulsterio]

Paul, Brenden suggested that there was no reason for anyone to take the movie seriously (you insult our prophet and we're not supposed to take it seriously?) then you said this shows how stupid fundamentalists are.

But hey, every Muslim is offended by this and did take it seriously, does that make us all fundamentalists and stupid. That was my point, and dude I wasn't literally asking for the definition of fundamentalist.

1) You made the decision to take it seriously, I didn't make it for you

2) I said fundamentalists are stupid and I stick by that statement.

3) Like Brenden said, not all Muslims are offended (I know some who aren't, which just makes you sound like you're making things up now)

4) I never said that you were a fundamentalist ffs, I said that fundamentalists were stupid, it doesn't mean I said you were a fundamentalist, it's two different statements.

I never called him stupid to begin with

Yes, you are stupid for being angry. Very stupid.

 

Unless you didn't realise, I never called him stupid to begin with. My first statement was:

It just shows how stupid fundamentalists are, LOL!

I made that statement in reference to fundamentalist religion as a whole, not to any particular person.

The second quote you provided was from my second post, after he called me stupid. Just read my post, makes more sense then me trying to recite it.

[thushan]

Guys, please cool down!!! I hate seeing people slinging mud at each other. And I don't think I'm the only one.

[Water]