Jill Meagher's Disappearance Poses Some Interesting Questions to Discuss

[Furbob]

the whole problem just stems from the fact that so many men just think with their dick and dont even care about what the girl is thinking or feeling, 0 self control and 0 worry for repurcussions

I dont think men think with their dick to the point that they would rape a stranger and dispose of their body :\

[MonsieurHulot]

There's a Facebook page that's been set up that calls for the public hanging of the alleged murderer. Some pretty sickening stuff is posted on there. It reminds me of Wikipedia's featured article from yesterday, about the lynching of Jesse Washington nearly 100 years ago. It's sad to see that even though race isn't an issue this time, there are still people who think that something like that is justified.

[VivaTequila]

how did they find the body?

[JellyDonut]

Murderer gave them the heads up

[MonsieurHulot]

Murderer gave them the heads up

[VivaTequila]

that's so fucked for the husband too, his brother flew from dublin to comfort him... far out

[Stick]

Whilst not victim-blaming, my parents (being traditional Italians) said that it was inappropriate for Jillian to act as a single woman in that she went out on her own, saying that her husband should have attended the event with her. How do you feel about this? Do you believe a married couple should always stick together for special occasions?

[Starlight]

Whilst not victim-blaming, my parents (being traditional Italians) said that it was inappropriate for Jillian to act as a single woman in that she went out on her own, saying that her husband should have attended the event with her. How do you feel about this? Do you believe a married couple should always stick together for special occasions?

No I don't agree with this at all. People are allowed to be their own person, why should they always have to be in the company of their significant other?

[Russ]

I would say 87.5% of the "blame" would be on the murderer.

Impressive quantification of responsibility you have there...

the whole problem just stems from the fact that so many men just think with their dick and dont even care about what the girl is thinking or feeling, 0 self control and 0 worry for repurcussions

nb I think this is just as bad and misguided as "it's women's fault for being sluts and wearing those outfits at night"

[ninwa]

Whilst not victim-blaming, my parents (being traditional Italians) said that it was inappropriate for Jillian to act as a single woman in that she went out on her own, saying that her husband should have attended the event with her. How do you feel about this? Do you believe a married couple should always stick together for special occasions?

Hell no, I would get so sick of my partner I need my own space and time thanks

[DisaFear]

Absolutely devastating story. Stories like these just leave you feeling heavy for the rest of the day. RIP Jill

I live not too far from Brunswick, have traveled along Sydney Rd many times late at night (by car), its usually full of people, always seemed like a nice and vibrant area. Though I have seen dodgy stuff going on every now and then.

It just makes me wonder about the more dangerous suburbs that we have. My friend regularly tells me stories about Dandenong station, leaves a sour feeling in my stomach.

Curious, anyone here go for late-night jogs/bike-rides? How safe do you feel?

[brenden]

Just like to clarify a couple of points
-Rape isn't men 'thinking with their dicks'
-Rape is a power thing, not something to assuage sexual desires.
-Rape can never be the victim's fault. Idgaf if the girl is lying catatonic and naked in the middle of the footpath, if someone rapes her, the rapist did it. Not her. A rape victim can never 'ask' for rape. If they 'asked' for it. It wouldn't be fucking rape, that'd be consensual sex.

Curious, anyone here go for late-night jogs/bike-rides? How safe do you feel?

I run at night, I've walked home from parties at night, to and fro my Mum's and Dad's house at night. As for safety, I'm comfortable doing so because I'm very alert. Never take short-cuts, I don't travel on the same side of the road as anyone else etc etc etc and I'm comfortable with my own ability to fight/flight. I acknowledge the dangers. However, and this is probably going to sound sexist or like I think I'm some sort of shining knight that needs to protect the little biddies, but I'd never want any (girl)friend of mine walk home alone at night. I've gone to my girlfriend's house at night to walk her to mine, I've walked a mate to his house before mine after a party etc. If someone didn't want me to walk them home, I'd probably just follow them and cop the consequences later.
So to answer Thushan's question, pragmatically women (and probably men here, let's face it, but I've been taught to be deferential to women even though I sometimes think it contravenes my own equalist ideals) should always be accompanied home as a precaution. However that doesn't mean a lone person is 'stupid' or 'deserves it' if something unfortunate befalls them. It is never-ever the fault of the victim. If a girl walks down a dark alley, whilst it's probably true that she 'shouldn't be there in the first place', ultimately, 'murderers and rapists shouldn't murder and rape in the first place.'

[pi]

Whilst not victim-blaming, my parents (being traditional Italians) said that it was inappropriate for Jillian to act as a single woman in that she went out on her own, saying that her husband should have attended the event with her. How do you feel about this? Do you believe a married couple should always stick together for special occasions?

This is a fairly archaic view imo.

[Starlight]

Whilst not victim-blaming, my parents (being traditional Italians) said that it was inappropriate for Jillian to act as a single woman in that she went out on her own, saying that her husband should have attended the event with her. How do you feel about this? Do you believe a married couple should always stick together for special occasions?

This is a fairly archaic view imo.

agreed.

If someone didn't want me to walk them home, I'd probably just follow them and cop the consequences later.

Brenden, you're a good friend looking out for your mates like that.

[Felicity Wishes]

Curious, anyone here go for late-night jogs/bike-rides? How safe do you feel?

Never, solely because of my fear of being raped/attacked/murdered. I know that it isn't an extrememly common thing but I don't want to risk it in the slightest but it's weird because late night jobs are fairly common in my area, so I'm assuming that these people don't feel much fear at all.

Good on you, Brenden.  I really admire that.