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rife168

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I was wondering if it is imperative that I include direct quotes in my Text Response essay..
I can remember quite well the details of many of the events and themes and characters etc. in the novel, but rote learning quotes is something that I really struggle with. I think I only wrote 1 quote in my 'Year of Wonders' SAC but my teacher said that because I used specific examples I still satisfied the requirement for 'knowledge of the text'.
I am going to write about 'Year of Wonders' in the exam.

If they are really important, does anyone else that's doing Y.O.W. on here have some kind of conglomeration of succinct yet powerful quotes? I'll start looking and upload any that I find.
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Bump because there might be more people online now...
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I was wondering if it is imperative that I include direct quotes in my Text Response essay..
I can remember quite well the details of many of the events and themes and characters etc. in the novel, but rote learning quotes is something that I really struggle with. I think I only wrote 1 quote in my 'Year of Wonders' SAC but my teacher said that because I used specific examples I still satisfied the requirement for 'knowledge of the text'.
I am going to write about 'Year of Wonders' in the exam.

If they are really important, does anyone else that's doing Y.O.W. on here have some kind of conglomeration of succinct yet powerful quotes? I'll start looking and upload any that I find.
My school really advocates quotes - they even made a criteria box for using evidence from the text (that probably says something about how important it is in the exam). YOW is the text i'm doing and I must admit, it is hard to memorise the countless quotes that seem important.
The only advice I can give you is to list all the themes in YOW (religion, social structure, change etc) and get 3-4 main quotes that reflect these themes. Also, try writing essays that explore all the themes in YOW and list all the quotes that you constantly use.

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I'm doing Cosi and I don't use too many quotes. I use small quotes with events in the text and it goes fine, as long as I'm using the text to support my ideas.
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Yeah I just thought that I probably have enough time to memorise some quotes, but rote memorisation is really not what I'm good at, so it's going to take a while and the time taken could be better spent actually thinking about the book and whatnot... I still got an A+ for my Y.O.W. SAC with 1 quote but I was wondering if the VCAA assessors are more stringent regarding explicit reference to the text...

@spherelin, do you have any nice short quotes that you wouldn't mind sharing? I'll do the same.
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Yeah I just thought that I probably have enough time to memorise some quotes, but rote memorisation is really not what I'm good at, so it's going to take a while and the time taken could be better spent actually thinking about the book and whatnot... I still got an A+ for my Y.O.W. SAC with 1 quote but I was wondering if the VCAA assessors are more stringent regarding explicit reference to the text...

@spherelin, do you have any nice short quotes that you wouldn't mind sharing? I'll do the same.

I think it is more important to have deep ideas. Probs why you got the A+!
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I've always been told you need about 4 - 9 quotes per paragraph. My school highly recommends you use direct textual evidence to compliment conceptual ideas. I think it demonstrates your knowledge of the text and examiners will look very highly upon it. It's also not going to be straining to remember quotes because you're writing one text response, so you may as well do it well.

The criteria for Section A follows this:
  • A detailed knowledge and understanding of the selected text, demonstrated appropriately in response to the
    topic

In my opinion, a detailed knowledge and understanding would require quotes.
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quotes are good
you won't be penalised if they aren't exact, however, you will be if it is obvious that you have made up a quote
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Yeah I just thought that I probably have enough time to memorise some quotes, but rote memorisation is really not what I'm good at, so it's going to take a while and the time taken could be better spent actually thinking about the book and whatnot... I still got an A+ for my Y.O.W. SAC with 1 quote but I was wondering if the VCAA assessors are more stringent regarding explicit reference to the text...

@spherelin, do you have any nice short quotes that you wouldn't mind sharing? I'll do the same.
Of course I don't mind!:)
You will most probably use "Sunday Oath", "Voluntary Besigement" "Wide Green Prison of our own election"... because without the self quarantine, the book would go nowhere. HAHA. Other than that,
"This plague will make heroes of us all" and of course on the flip side....."these times, they do make monsters of us all"
Those are the first few that spring to mind for me :)

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I've always been told you need about 4 - 9 quotes per paragraph. My school highly recommends you use direct textual evidence to compliment conceptual ideas. I think it demonstrates your knowledge of the text and examiners will look very highly upon it. It's also not going to be straining to remember quotes because you're writing one text response, so you may as well do it well.

The criteria for Section A follows this:
  • A detailed knowledge and understanding of the selected text, demonstrated appropriately in response to the
    topic

In my opinion, a detailed knowledge and understanding would require quotes.


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Good quotations. Super-important.
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Of course you need quotes. How can anyone believe what you're saying if you don't have the evidence to back it up?

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Of course you need quotes. How can anyone believe what you're saying if you don't have the evidence to back it up?

Specific examples from the text... I thought that was clear in the OP.

I don't see how there could be a huge difference between specific examples and direct quotes...
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Of course you need quotes. How can anyone believe what you're saying if you don't have the evidence to back it up?

Specific examples from the text... I thought that was clear in the OP.

I don't see how there could be a huge difference between specific examples and direct quotes...
Not too much of a difference. My best essays reach an 8.5-9 and I use a mixture of both.
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Not too much of a difference. My best essays reach an 8.5-9 and I use a mixture of both.
I'm the same. To be safe you would have to use both, as they compliment each other very well. Especially when describing a character.


For example:
Terry Malloys' eventual moral salvation had him realising that Johnny Friendly was a "dirty stinkin' mug" as he confronted him on the docks in the triumphant final scene of the film.

That's not probably not the best sentence in the world, but it is setting the scene whilst using a quote to describe Friendly.
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