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[Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« on: October 28, 2012, 06:39:23 pm »
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Yo I need help with this question:
The swimming pool is 11 metres long and the depth increases uniformly from 1 metre at the shallow end to 1.8 metres at the deep end.

In my experience, two fiqures are similar if they are the same shape and the corresponding dimentions are in the same ratio.Therefore, the sides of one similar shape are all proportional to the sides of the other, so K-factor can be used to calculate the unknown lengths. But apparantly this rule doesnt apply to trapeziums. Can anyone please clarify?

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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 06:51:12 pm »
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That is true. you gotta use trianges with this one. make triangles from the bottom. then add 1m to the result
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 06:55:18 pm »
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SO the rule of similar shapes applies to EVERY shape except for trapeziums??? OK that makes a lot of sense...  :-\

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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 06:56:26 pm »
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Why doesn't it work for trapeziums?
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 06:58:05 pm »
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I have no idea shapes were racist??? Why doesnt the laws of similar shapes apply to ALL shapes???

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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 07:02:18 pm »
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They are congruent, not similar.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2012, 07:10:24 pm »
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I got B. Hoping someone else did as well.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2012, 07:27:53 pm »
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I got B. Hoping someone else did as well.
Nope, I got D. I didn't even bother with similar triangles, and i reckon that would be the more difficult way. I just made a triangle out of the bottom part and then used tan(angle)= OPP/ADJ to work out angle, and then worked backwards to get the new depth at 8m. Was really quite easy in the end.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 07:47:50 pm »
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I got B. Hoping someone else did as well.
Nope, I got D. I didn't even bother with similar triangles, and i reckon that would be the more difficult way. I just made a triangle out of the bottom part and then used tan(angle)= OPP/ADJ to work out angle, and then worked backwards to get the new depth at 8m. Was really quite easy in the end.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2012, 07:51:40 pm »
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You were right. *forever wishes I had your math ability*

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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2012, 07:53:00 pm »
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You were right. *forever wishes I had your math ability*

Pun intended? Also when did you change your name..?
No pun.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2012, 08:38:18 pm »
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So next time I see a trapezium, I have a new gameplan. Don't use K-factor!!!

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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2012, 08:46:05 pm »
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I think i have come up with a reasoning, but dont take it as 100%
with this example, it doesnt work because not all sides grow in proportion to each other. that side on the left (1m) remains one from one shape to the other. in other words getting from small to big, we're streching if you like. although angles and such are all the same, the shape is growing by a factor.
not sure if this is clear enough but best way i can explain it.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2012, 08:49:57 pm »
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I think i have come up with a reasoning, but dont take it as 100%
with this example, it doesnt work because not all sides grow in proportion to each other. that side on the left (1m) remains one from one shape to the other. in other words getting from small to big, we're streching if you like. although angles and such are all the same, the shape is growing by a factor.
not sure if this is clear enough but best way i can explain it.

True. Which means they aren't similar.
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Re: [Geometry help] Similar Shapes
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2012, 08:59:06 pm »
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you can use scale factor with trapeziums and stuff, but you just gotta make sure they are seperate, and not one of those shape in shape ones like above. same with any other shape besides triangles.
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