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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 10:28:19 pm »
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No one wants to answer :( people must be too busy with methods/spech etc :P

I'm writing mine now! Spesh is on Friday but like... screw it! haha I'll probably have it done by tomorrow :)
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2 more questions left... *yawn* I'll post my answers when I'm done tomorrow :)
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So the 12th question was similar to Q5 so I didn't bother writing another answer. I'm unsure whether they would get full marks or not, but I'm especially iffy about Q7. I just didn't really know how to write something coherent and logical for it. Hope to receive some feedback from all of you! :)

1.   Discuss the different methods of depreciation and why it is not recommended that the method be changed regularly. Refer to 1 Accounting Principle and 1 Qualitative Characteristic in your answer 6 Marks
Accounting Principle: Consistency
Qualitative Characteristic: Comparability
The straight-line method of depreciation should be used if the asset is expected to contribute to revenue evenly over its useful life. While the reducing balance method of depreciation should be used if the asset is expected to contribute to revenue greater in its earlier life. It is not recommended that the method of depreciation be changed regularly as this contravenes with Consistency and Comparability. The accounting principle consistency demands that once a depreciation method is chosen, it should be used from one period to the next. This ensures that reports can be compared from one period to the next, and upholds the qualitative characteristic of Comparability in accounting reports. Changing depreciation methods is possible if the current method of depreciation is not ensuring that the revenue the asset earns is being matched by its depreciation expense, but the change must be clearly shown in reports.

2.   Discuss the effect the movement of the debt ratio has on the profitability and liquidity of the business
6 Marks

The Debt Ratio assesses the relationship between total liabilities and total assets. A higher Debt Ratio means there is a greater risk that the business will be unable to repay its debts and meet their interest payments. This is because the business will have taken on a greater amount of debt to fund its purchasing of assets. Thus, interest expense will increase and the liquidity will decrease. However, as assets are being purchased via borrowed funds instead of the owner’s personal funds, the Return on Owner’s Investment should increase and thus profitability should increase. A lower Debt Ratio means that there is less risk that the business will be unable to repay short-term debts as they fall due, which is favourable for liquidity. However, it also means that the majority of the finance used to purchase assets has been funded by the owner, and thus Return on Owner’s Investment will be lower, which is unfavourable for profitability. Overall, the owner should judge the Debt Ratio carefully in order to maximise the return to the owner’s investment without putting too much pressure on liquidity.

3.   Discuss how Stock Cards follow Accounting Principles (Hint: There are 2 principles to discuss)
4 Marks

Conservatism: This principle states that as soon as a loss is anticipated (i.e. in the form of a stock loss/stock write-down) it is recognised immediately to ensure assets (stock) is not overstated.
Historical Cost: The stock in the Stock Card is recorded at the cost price and not the selling price because the original purchase price is verified by a source document.

4.   Discuss the limitations of using Financial Indicators to determine performance
4 Marks

Owners should not rely on financial indicators alone to determine performance due to its limitations. Financial reports use historical data; these do not guarantee what will happen in the future. Additionally, many of these indicators rely on averages which conceal details about individual items.  Furthermore, firms will use different accounting methods, which can undermine the comparability of reports and these financial indicators. Therefore, non-financial information (items not reported in a financial report) such as the current state of the economy and the firm’s relationship with its customers are just as important in determining performance as financial indicators.

5.   Discuss the benefits of preparing budgets for business performance
4 Marks

Budgeting is the process of preparing reports that predict the financial consequences of likely future transactions. They assist planning by predicting what is likely to occur in the future and aid decision-making by providing a standard benchmark for which actual performance can be measured against.  Additionally, they set benchmarks for indicators which assess liquidity, stability and profitability. By preparing a budget at the beginning of the reporting period, a variance report at the end of the period can be prepared to compare actual and budgeted figures, highlighting variances so problems can be identified and rectified appropriately to improve business performance for future reporting periods.

6.   Discuss the reasons for Sales Returns and the benefits of offering them to customers
4 Marks

A sales return is the return of stock to the firm by a trade debtor. Sales Returns occur when stock is faulty/damaged or the wrong model/colour. Other common reasons for a sales return are when too many items have been purchased or customers have just changed their mind. Damaged/faulty stock must be accepted for return, provided the customer has the source document as proof of purchase and the business is satisfied that the fault lies with the product rather than how it was used.  Businesses that accept returns can generate greater sales, with customers being more willing to purchase if they have the comfort of knowing that they can return the product if it is unsuitable. Additionally, Sales Returns can also be an indicator of customer satisfaction of the stock being sold. If Sales Returns are high, it may indicate that customers aren’t satisfied with the quality of goods being sold.

7.   Discuss strategies that a business could employ to improve liquidity
4 Marks

Liquidity refers to the ability of a business to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.
Liquidity can be assessed on two factors: The level and speed of liquidity.
If the level of liquidity is unsatisfactory as indicated by the Cash Flow Cover as well as the Working Capital and Quick Assets Ratios, then the business could increase Net Cash Flows from Operations proportionately greater than Average Current Liabilities by collecting owing debt from debtors earlier (sending reminder notices to debtors approaching the end of credit terms, offering discounts on early payment), selling more stock using greater advertising, and delaying payments to creditors to a later date. Not only would this improve the Cash Flow Cover, the Working Capital and Quick Asset ratios too would improve as there is a greater amount of cash available to meet short-term debts and less idle assets (excess debt and stock). Additionally, this would decrease both the Stock and Debtors Turnover. Consequently, the speed of liquidity: the time it takes for a business to sell stock and collect cash, is reduced, and the business’ liquidity should improve.

8.   Discuss strategies that a business could employ to improve profitability
5 Marks

Profitability is the ability of the business to earn profit, as compared against a base such as Sales, assets or Owner’s Equity. A firm’s profitability is dependent on its ability to earn revenue and control its expenses. Greater revenue can be generated through an increase in advertising to generate additional sales or the changing the stock mix so products which are in demand are kept on hand while slow moving lines are replaced with fast-moving lines of stock. A firm can improve its expense control with greater management of stock by seeking an alternative supplier who can provide cheaper/better quality stock to lower cost of sales/sales returns. Another method could be implementing a better stock recording system (perpetual system of stock recording) using stock cards, and physical stocktakes. Deciding which strategy a business should employ to improve profitability will be dependent on the current circumstances of the business.

9.   Discuss why it is necessary to calculate the cash flow cover when analysing liquidity in addition to using Working Capital and Quick Asset Ratios
4 Marks

The Working Capital Ratio measures the ratio of current assets to current liabilities to assess the firm’s ability to meet short-term debts. Meanwhile, the Quick Asset Ratio measures the ratio of quick assets to quick liabilities to assess the firm’s ability to meet its immediate debts using its immediate assets. However, both these ratios rely on static items to measure future cash flows; both ratios come from the Balance Sheet and provide no indication of the cash flows of the business. Therefore, it is necessary to calculate the Cash Flow Cover to identify the actual cash that the business generates and its ability of the generated cash to meet its financial obligations. Cash Flow Cover, determined by measuring the number of times Net Cash Flows from Operations covers average Current Liabilities, shows the ability of the firm to pay its short-term debts as they fall due using its operating cash flows. If the Cash Flow Cover shows that the business is not generating sufficient cash from its operating activities, then the business may require capital contributions to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.

10.   Discuss the importance of calculating debt ratio in addition to analysing Return on Owner's Investment
4 Marks

By calculating debt ratio in addition to analysing Return on Owner’s Investment in order to determine whether the business has relied on owner’s capital to purchase assets which boost profit, or has instead relied on borrowed funds. The debt ratio measures the percentage of a firm’s assets which are financed by liabilities/loans, indicating the reliance of a business on debt to purchase its assets. While the ROI indicates how effectively the firm has used its owner’s funds to earn profit. A higher Debt Ratio means the firm has a greater reliance on borrowed funds than it is on owner’s capital which is a means of increasing ROI without increasing profit. This is because the business is using someone else’s funds to buy the assets to earn profit, but the owner still receives all of the profit. Meanwhile, a low Debt Ratio means that the firm is not reliant on borrowed funds, and is thus at a low risk of being unable to repay its debts. However this also means that most assets have been financed with the personal funds of the owner and thus a lower ROI will ensue. Therefore, it is important to calculate the Debt Ratio in addition to analysing ROI in order for the owner to judge carefully whether the ROI is being maximised by the debt ratio or not.

11. The owner is satisfied with the firm's performance because his Working Capital Ratio is 6:1. Discuss the validity of this statement.
The owner’s statement is valid in the sense that its level of liquidity is satisfactory, and the firm should not have trouble generating cash to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.
However, although it is beneficial for the Working Capital to be above 1:1, the firm’s 6:1 Working Capital Ratio may indicate that the business has an excess of current assets which are idle and not being employed effectively. For example, a large amount of stock could incur additional storage costs, and increase the possibility of stock loss, damage and obsolescence. This also indicates that the business is not selling its stock frequently, and may have trouble meeting its immediate short-term debts. Another example would be an increasing amount of debtors which would indicate an increasing amount of “bad debts”, which in turn means that the business may not be able to generate cash from its debtors to meet short-term debts as they fall due. Consequently, the owner’s statement is invalid.

If you see any improvements which can be made (I'm sure there are) then please please please reply! Thank you!
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Re: Discussion Questions :D
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2012, 04:49:52 pm »
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So the 12th question was similar to Q5 so I didn't bother writing another answer. I'm unsure whether they would get full marks or not, but I'm especially iffy about Q7. I just didn't really know how to write something coherent and logical for it. Hope to receive some feedback from all of you! :)

1.   Discuss the different methods of depreciation and why it is not recommended that the method be changed regularly. Refer to 1 Accounting Principle and 1 Qualitative Characteristic in your answer 6 Marks
Accounting Principle: Consistency
Qualitative Characteristic: Comparability
The straight-line method of depreciation should be used if the asset is expected to contribute to revenue evenly over its useful life. While the reducing balance method of depreciation should be used if the asset is expected to contribute to revenue greater in its earlier life. It is not recommended that the method of depreciation be changed regularly as this contravenes with Consistency and Comparability. The accounting principle consistency demands that once a depreciation method is chosen, it should be used from one period to the next. This ensures that reports can be compared from one period to the next, and upholds the qualitative characteristic of Comparability in accounting reports. Changing depreciation methods is possible if the current method of depreciation is not ensuring that the revenue the asset earns is being matched by its depreciation expense, but the change must be clearly shown in reports.

You mentioned why you use the different methods, but maybe also mention how the method calculates depreciation. So mention that Straight line allocates depreciation evenly over the assets useful life while the reducing balance method allocates more at the start of the assets useful life compared with later

2.   Discuss the effect the movement of the debt ratio has on the profitability and liquidity of the business
6 Marks

The Debt Ratio assesses the relationship between total liabilities and total assets. A higher Debt Ratio means there is a greater risk that the business will be unable to repay its debts and meet their interest payments. This is because the business will have taken on a greater amount of debt to fund its purchasing of assets. Thus, interest expense will increase and the liquidity will decrease. However, as assets are being purchased via borrowed funds instead of the owner’s personal funds, the Return on Owner’s Investment should increase and thus profitability should increase. A lower Debt Ratio means that there is less risk that the business will be unable to repay short-term debts as they fall due, which is favourable for liquidity. However, it also means that the majority of the finance used to purchase assets has been funded by the owner, and thus Return on Owner’s Investment will be lower, which is unfavourable for profitability. Overall, the owner should judge the Debt Ratio carefully in order to maximise the return to the owner’s investment without putting too much pressure on liquidity.

This is a great answer, but make sure you mention that the effect on liquidity will be in the future and not immediate (as the business will be borrowing funds from non-current liabilities

3.   Discuss how Stock Cards follow Accounting Principles (Hint: There are 2 principles to discuss)
4 Marks

Conservatism: This principle states that as soon as a loss is anticipated (i.e. in the form of a stock loss/stock write-down) it is recognised immediately to ensure assets (stock) is not overstated.
Historical Cost: The stock in the Stock Card is recorded at the cost price and not the selling price because the original purchase price is verified by a source document.

Remember that stock is also valued at cost price and not selling price because of conservatism as well, so that we don't anticipate the revenue before it has occured

4.   Discuss the limitations of using Financial Indicators to determine performance
4 Marks

Owners should not rely on financial indicators alone to determine performance due to its limitations. Financial reports use historical data; these do not guarantee what will happen in the future. Additionally, many of these indicators rely on averages which conceal details about individual items.  Furthermore, firms will use different accounting methods, which can undermine the comparability of reports and these financial indicators. Therefore, non-financial information (items not reported in a financial report) such as the current state of the economy and the firm’s relationship with its customers are just as important in determining performance as financial indicators.

great answer, I would give you 4/4
5.   Discuss the benefits of preparing budgets for business performance
4 Marks

Budgeting is the process of preparing reports that predict the financial consequences of likely future transactions. They assist planning by predicting what is likely to occur in the future and aid decision-making by providing a standard benchmark for which actual performance can be measured against.  Additionally, they set benchmarks for indicators which assess liquidity, stability and profitability. By preparing a budget at the beginning of the reporting period, a variance report at the end of the period can be prepared to compare actual and budgeted figures, highlighting variances so problems can be identified and rectified appropriately to improve business performance for future reporting periods.

another great answer. Your answers are very fluent and cohesive which is a bonus for assessors

6.   Discuss the reasons for Sales Returns and the benefits of offering them to customers
4 Marks

A sales return is the return of stock to the firm by a trade debtor. Sales Returns occur when stock is faulty/damaged or the wrong model/colour. Other common reasons for a sales return are when too many items have been purchased or customers have just changed their mind. Damaged/faulty stock must be accepted for return, provided the customer has the source document as proof of purchase and the business is satisfied that the fault lies with the product rather than how it was used.  Businesses that accept returns can generate greater sales, with customers being more willing to purchase if they have the comfort of knowing that they can return the product if it is unsuitable. Additionally, Sales Returns can also be an indicator of customer satisfaction of the stock being sold. If Sales Returns are high, it may indicate that customers aren’t satisfied with the quality of goods being sold.

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7.   Discuss strategies that a business could employ to improve liquidity
4 Marks

Liquidity refers to the ability of a business to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.
Liquidity can be assessed on two factors: The level and speed of liquidity.
If the level of liquidity is unsatisfactory as indicated by the Cash Flow Cover as well as the Working Capital and Quick Assets Ratios, then the business could increase Net Cash Flows from Operations proportionately greater than Average Current Liabilities by collecting owing debt from debtors earlier (sending reminder notices to debtors approaching the end of credit terms, offering discounts on early payment), selling more stock using greater advertising, and delaying payments to creditors to a later date. Not only would this improve the Cash Flow Cover, the Working Capital and Quick Asset ratios too would improve as there is a greater amount of cash available to meet short-term debts and less idle assets (excess debt and stock). Additionally, this would decrease both the Stock and Debtors Turnover. Consequently, the speed of liquidity: the time it takes for a business to sell stock and collect cash, is reduced, and the business’ liquidity should improve.

I always tell my students to be careful with using the term "greater advertising" because this implies that you are spending more money, but not necessarily spending it well. A better way to say this would be "better targeted advertising". Also remember that delaying creditors to a latter date may not be the best option if discounts are available and you do have the ability to pay debts early.

8.   Discuss strategies that a business could employ to improve profitability
5 Marks

Profitability is the ability of the business to earn profit, as compared against a base such as Sales, assets or Owner’s Equity. A firm’s profitability is dependent on its ability to earn revenue and control its expenses. Greater revenue can be generated through an increase in advertising to generate additional sales or the changing the stock mix so products which are in demand are kept on hand while slow moving lines are replaced with fast-moving lines of stock. A firm can improve its expense control with greater management of stock by seeking an alternative supplier who can provide cheaper/better quality stock to lower cost of sales/sales returns. Another method could be implementing a better stock recording system (perpetual system of stock recording) using stock cards, and physical stocktakes. Deciding which strategy a business should employ to improve profitability will be dependent on the current circumstances of the business.

again with the advertising, but rest is fine :)

9.   Discuss why it is necessary to calculate the cash flow cover when analysing liquidity in addition to using Working Capital and Quick Asset Ratios
4 Marks

The Working Capital Ratio measures the ratio of current assets to current liabilities to assess the firm’s ability to meet short-term debts. Meanwhile, the Quick Asset Ratio measures the ratio of quick assets to quick liabilities to assess the firm’s ability to meet its immediate debts using its immediate assets. However, both these ratios rely on static items to measure future cash flows; both ratios come from the Balance Sheet and provide no indication of the cash flows of the business. Therefore, it is necessary to calculate the Cash Flow Cover to identify the actual cash that the business generates and its ability of the generated cash to meet its financial obligations. Cash Flow Cover, determined by measuring the number of times Net Cash Flows from Operations covers average Current Liabilities, shows the ability of the firm to pay its short-term debts as they fall due using its operating cash flows. If the Cash Flow Cover shows that the business is not generating sufficient cash from its operating activities, then the business may require capital contributions to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.

great answer. the key word here is obviously that WCR and QAR are static and you have mentioned that :D

10.   Discuss the importance of calculating debt ratio in addition to analysing Return on Owner's Investment
4 Marks

By calculating debt ratio in addition to analysing Return on Owner’s Investment in order to determine whether the business has relied on owner’s capital to purchase assets which boost profit, or has instead relied on borrowed funds. The debt ratio measures the percentage of a firm’s assets which are financed by liabilities/loans, indicating the reliance of a business on debt to purchase its assets. While the ROI indicates how effectively the firm has used its owner’s funds to earn profit. A higher Debt Ratio means the firm has a greater reliance on borrowed funds than it is on owner’s capital which is a means of increasing ROI without increasing profit. This is because the business is using someone else’s funds to buy the assets to earn profit, but the owner still receives all of the profit. Meanwhile, a low Debt Ratio means that the firm is not reliant on borrowed funds, and is thus at a low risk of being unable to repay its debts. However this also means that most assets have been financed with the personal funds of the owner and thus a lower ROI will ensue. Therefore, it is important to calculate the Debt Ratio in addition to analysing ROI in order for the owner to judge carefully whether the ROI is being maximised by the debt ratio or not.

you mentioned low risk when there is low debt ratio but you forgot to mention high risk for high debt ratio :P

11. The owner is satisfied with the firm's performance because his Working Capital Ratio is 6:1. Discuss the validity of this statement.
The owner’s statement is valid in the sense that its level of liquidity is satisfactory, and the firm should not have trouble generating cash to meet its short-term debts as they fall due.
However, although it is beneficial for the Working Capital to be above 1:1, the firm’s 6:1 Working Capital Ratio may indicate that the business has an excess of current assets which are idle and not being employed effectively. For example, a large amount of stock could incur additional storage costs, and increase the possibility of stock loss, damage and obsolescence. This also indicates that the business is not selling its stock frequently, and may have trouble meeting its immediate short-term debts. Another example would be an increasing amount of debtors which would indicate an increasing amount of “bad debts”, which in turn means that the business may not be able to generate cash from its debtors to meet short-term debts as they fall due. Consequently, the owner’s statement is invalid.

i thought it was a bit harsh to say "it is invalid" at the end :P better to say it was "incorrect because...." and put it at the start of your explanation

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 05:18:31 pm »
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Thanks BoredSaint for the recommendations. Helps me a lot!

Also with your final comment, I originally had "The owner's statement is not very valid", but then I thought it was just vague so I decided to be mean and call it invalid. :P
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Thanks BoredSaint for the recommendations. Helps me a lot!

Also with your final comment, I originally had "The owner's statement is not very valid", but then I thought it was just vague so I decided to be mean and call it invalid. :P
haha you wouldnt be penalised for sure. I just thought it was a little insensitive :P
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haha you wouldnt be penalised for sure. I just thought it was a little insensitive :P

I think I am allowed to be a little insensitive if the owner is making silly comments such as that one about their business :P
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Can you try think of some more questions? :D

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Can you try think of some more questions? :D
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Hi Guys! This is excellent stuff! Love it!


Another Extended Response could be on the relationship between NPM, ATO and ROA.

Also, when you are discussing theory, is it okay to write the ratio's as ROI, WCR etc. as an acronym or in full (ie. Return on Owner's Investment etc.)?

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Yes, it's fine. But write Return on Owner's Investment (ROI), then ROI.. just to be on the safe side :)

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There's also the classic Agreed Value v. Historical Cost (for a NCA contributed by the owner) in which the discussion is usually lead by APs and QCs.

Talking points:
- Entity principle
- Historical Cost principle
- Conservatism principle
- Relevance
- Reliability
- Conflict between Relevance and Reliability

Ultimately, it's Entity, Conservatism and Relevance that support agreed value, whilst Historical Cost and Reliability support the non-current asset being reported at its Historical Cost. This is followed by the conflict between Reliability and Relevance (e.g. HC is verifiable by source document versus it is more relevant to record the NCA at agreed value as it is more useful for decision making [although this undermines Reliability as the agreed value involves estimation]), which is concluded by saying, in this instance, Relevance > Reliability.

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There's also the classic Agreed Value v. Historical Cost (for a NCA contributed by the owner) in which the discussion is usually lead by APs and QCs.

Talking points:
- Entity principle
- Historical Cost principle
- Conservatism principle
- Relevance
- Reliability
- Conflict between Relevance and Reliability

Ultimately, it's Entity, Conservatism and Relevance that support agreed value, whilst Historical Cost and Reliability support the non-current asset being reported at its Historical Cost. This is followed by the conflict between Reliability and Relevance (e.g. HC is verifiable by source document versus it is more relevant to record the NCA at agreed value as it is more useful for decision making [although this undermines Reliability as the agreed value involves estimation]), which is concluded by saying, in this instance, Relevance > Reliability.

With the Conservatism and Agreed Value, is it because the business  is recognising a loss when probable so that assets and expenses are not overstated (i.e. the value of the non-current asset is not overstated and the depreciation expense would not be overstated under agreed value) ?? :-\

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With the Conservatism and Agreed Value, is it because the business  is recognising a loss when probable so that assets and expenses are not overstated (i.e. the value of the non-current asset is not overstated and the depreciation expense would not be overstated under agreed value) ?? :-\

It's more got to do with the fact agreed value is lower than the Historical Cost, therefore providing greater reason to record the NCA at its agreed value so as not to overstate assets and owner's equity.

It is definitely the weakest of the talking points listed above, however, if the discussion question was worth 6 marks, including it would move your answer from borderline full marks, to definite full marks (providing you hit all the other points). Although if it were out of 4 marks, you'd still quite easily be able to achieve full marks without giving Conservatism a mention.