USA Election 2012

[Soul_Khan]

Mitt Romney is the physical manifestation of Satan himself. I'm glad that scumbag wasn't elected.


#2termz #Obama4UrMama

[Starlight]

OBAMA. That's all.

[HighLatency]

In other news the People's Republic of China's presidential election is up and coming.

*smirk*

[Jezza]

Both the candidates sucked, and that's coming from someone who supports the Republicans more than the Democrats.

Unlike Romney, other good candidate would have beaten Obama considering he's done nothing in his first 4 years except for killing Osama Bin Laden. The unemployment rate in the United States is a big concern with it actually rising under Obama and the United States are still in a massive debt.

[RTandon]

I don't know anything about Politics/USA/whatever
But I'm just going to leave this here

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[paulsterio]

Hmm, Mitt Romney gets more hate than he deserves, it's because of what Obama's campaign has painted him out to be. Have a read about him and the things he stands for, he's not an indecent human being, like I surely don't agree with all his beliefs, but then and again, I don't agree with all of anyone's beliefs, we all have different values. If you look at Romney, he does have credentials, he's experienced in politics, having been Governor, as well as having come from a lineage of politicians. He's a business strategist who understands the economy and if you listen to him debating Obama, you'll see that he's a knowledgeable, well-spoken and decent person.

He might not have the charisma of Obama, but he's by no means what many make him out to be.

[ShortBlackChick]

I don't know anything about Politics/USA/whatever
But I'm just going to leave this here

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

I dont know if thats supposed to be sarcastic- that site, because that seems to me that he's done a lot.

I think the thing with Obama is that we had high expectations of him and what he could do with his visions but at the end of the day he's only human and he could only do so much in 4 years. His changes may be subtle but according to that site at least, I think he's achieved a lot

[Truck]

The more the Republican party is influenced by the tea party and other right wing religious crazies the stupider their policies become. Romney mightn't have been such a bad candidate if he wasn't pulled so far to the right by his republican colleagues, but ultimately the portrayal of him as a "flip-flopper" is scarily accurate and I think voting Republican in today's society is a huge mistake irrespective of its leader.

[paulsterio]

The more the Republican party is influenced by the tea party and other right wing religious crazies the stupider their policies become. Romney mightn't have been such a bad candidate if he wasn't pulled so far to the right by his republican colleagues, but ultimately the portrayal of him as a "flip-flopper" is scarily accurate and I think voting Republican in today's society is a huge mistake irrespective of its leader.

I agree, I think that the tea party movement is a bad thing, but objectively, if you read up on what Romney stands for, you'll see that he's not actually that bad.

Guess who implemented a health care scheme in his state before Obamacare, that's right Mitt Romney.

Other examples as well - but just read for yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney

Btw, Romney isn't the leader of the Republican party, the American government isn't a parliamentary system like in Australia, or even in countries like Germany (which doesn't have a monarch). Its President is both the head of government and head of state. He is completely separate to Congress, which is the two houses - the Senate and the House of Representatives. A president can be Republican or Democrat, regardless of who has the majority in the Senate and the House - in fact, you can have a Republican president even with Democrats holding the majority in both houses and vice versa.

[Russ]

Do I really care about the individual when he's planning to introduce bad policies?

[EvangelionZeta]

^I think the problem with Romney was more that nobody had any idea about what kind of policies he was actually going to introduce to begin with.  The man had too many faces and no consistency.  Of course, there were moments where he did actually seem somewhat legitimate as an alternative to Obama, but they were outweighed by everything else - paraphrasing The Economist (which did endorse Obama this year), "We would have endorsed the Mitt Romney we saw in the first Presidential Debate over Obama generally...if that were the only Mitt Romney that existed".

I am really glad Obama won his second term though.  I do hope he does a bit more obvious stuff in his second term though - we'll have to wait and see (although I would be most of all interested in what history has to say about Obama in thirty years time!).

[paulsterio]

I am really glad Obama won his second term though.  I do hope he does a bit more obvious stuff in his second term though - we'll have to wait and see (although I would be most of all interested in what history has to say about Obama in thirty years time!).

He'll probably be remembered for who he was rather than what he did, just like JFK will always be remembered for being the first Roman Catholic President of the United States, over his many achievements. I think it will probably be similar for Obama, being remembered as the first African-American President, over his actual achievements.

[CaiTheHuman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-DKR4sQC4

Awkward.

[Truck]

The more the Republican party is influenced by the tea party and other right wing religious crazies the stupider their policies become. Romney mightn't have been such a bad candidate if he wasn't pulled so far to the right by his republican colleagues, but ultimately the portrayal of him as a "flip-flopper" is scarily accurate and I think voting Republican in today's society is a huge mistake irrespective of its leader.

I agree, I think that the tea party movement is a bad thing, but objectively, if you read up on what Romney stands for, you'll see that he's not actually that bad.

Guess who implemented a health care scheme in his state before Obamacare, that's right Mitt Romney.

Other examples as well - but just read for yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney

Btw, Romney isn't the leader of the Republican party, the American government isn't a parliamentary system like in Australia, or even in countries like Germany (which doesn't have a monarch). Its President is both the head of government and head of state. He is completely separate to Congress, which is the two houses - the Senate and the House of Representatives. A president can be Republican or Democrat, regardless of who has the majority in the Senate and the House - in fact, you can have a Republican president even with Democrats holding the majority in both houses and vice versa.

Romney doesn't stand for anything - that's the point - he has changed his stances on so many things since winning his primary that he isn't running on the same platform as the one in which he ran for governor of Massachusetts.

It's funny that you mention that Romney implemented the "original" Obamacare because his official position was that Obamacare is bad and should be repealed, which encapsulates his utter hypocrisy.

I didn't actually say Romney is the leader of the GOP, I said people shouldn't be voting Republican full stop - whether it's for congress or the white house.

[EvangelionZeta]

I am really glad Obama won his second term though.  I do hope he does a bit more obvious stuff in his second term though - we'll have to wait and see (although I would be most of all interested in what history has to say about Obama in thirty years time!).

He'll probably be remembered for who he was rather than what he did, just like JFK will always be remembered for being the first Roman Catholic President of the United States, over his many achievements. I think it will probably be similar for Obama, being remembered as the first African-American President, over his actual achievements.

I thought JFK was remembered for dealing with the Cuban Missile Crisis/Bay of Pigs Invasion and for being assassinated?