Yeah I don't know what religious brainwashing you've been subjected to but that's patently untrue
I think that was a misplacement of articles rather than a wrong argument. 'A', not 'the' role of sex is obviously to conceive (unless you're into stork theory) - and as I said in another response, pleasure/power also.
What is "promiscuous sexuality"? What's the difference between promiscuous sexuality and (what I assume is) chaste sexuality? Assuming you actually manage to explain what that even means, What is so bad about promiscuity and why is it so contrary to "what sex means as a fundamental human pursuit" (what does that even mean)? And what is a "comprehensive psychological basis"?
Yes, acknowledged. In simpler terms, here's what I mean:
- I'm not arguing, having established the difference between promiscuity and chastity, that promiscuity is in itself a bad thing - I'm arguing that it is bad when a
child's first encounters with sex are through promiscuity, which stripping or other professional sexual jobs imply (even though it is not necessarily so since it is a profession and not all - I assume a large proportion - of these workers are promiscuous outside of their job). A comprehensive psychological background would be the kid having an understanding of how sex works, what sexual conventions are and what a stable relationship means. Among adults, who have experience with long-term relationships, promiscuity - as long as its consensual - is fine. I don't see anything wrong with it.
- I think you took that 'fundamental' comment out of context. I'm not making comments about sex/promiscuity in themselves - I'm only judging them when children come into it. So here, I argue that exposing children too early to promiscuity negatively affects them because their understanding of sex and sexual relations is more likely to be focused around the promiscuous acts that they have been exposed to. I mean, a 6-year-old boy who is exposed to stripping is far more likely to be looking at adult stuff on the net at a young age than say, a kid who hasn't been allowed to watch M-rated movies until he's 12 or 13 (I don't want to generalize there, but it has to be true)...the environment of one's upbringing plays a major role in the development of their personality. Every kid becomes hormonal, sure, but that does not mean that every kid becomes promiscuous when they hit puberty. And agreed, the problem is not so much high levels of teenage sexual activity as unprotected teenage sex - but still, I can't accept that it is morally okay for a 13 year old to be having - even protected - sex on a regular basis. Remove the drug influence from there, but we surely do not want a Brave New World-type situation where juvenile promiscuity has become an accepted norm.
Hollowed conception? What? What is so "hollow" about seeing sex as a vehicle for pleasure?
Misplaced word; thanks for the pickup. Change that to 'warped' conception. Again, nothing is wrong with seeing sex as a vehicle for pleasure - it's only wrong when children know about promiscuity before they know about a stable boy-girl relationship. When they know about these things before they have a decent sex education, they are surely more likely to land themselves in tricky situations like unprotected sex and perhaps, not always, abortions. Consequences may include alienation from community, school community, family, self-alienation, depression etc.
Pages 19-24:
http://ul.netd.ac.za/bitstream/10386/325/1/Research%20Dessertation%20of%20Edzisani%20Egnes%20Sodi.pdfhttp://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2134267?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101959628051And I never said that promiscuity is an inherently narrow lifestyle when practiced consensually among adults.
Teenage pregnancy is a far more complex issue than just "this kid saw her mum stripping therefore she'll have 3 kids by 18". Maybe that kid's mum was also responsible enough to take her to a doctor and get her on birth control.
Perhaps, and kudos to her. But I would think that the mother is still at least partially responsible for her kid's promiscuity - her stripping etc. would have played a key role in causing the kid to start exploring that stuff too soon. I won't believe that the fact that a teenager is having safe sex makes teenage promiscuity completely acceptable - it's taboo; it's unnatural - the body is barely able to do that stuff yet. Most parents wouldn't be exposing their kids to casual sex in their pre-adolescent years.
Additionally, please explain how abortion negatively affects social and professional prospects. If I had an abortion, I wouldn't tell my employer about it because it's none of their business.
Not literally, as in including it in a CV. As in, the psychological effects of a teenage abortion are traumatic. Those who undergo an abortion as a teenager are likely to have reduced confidence, education and skills to guide them through the tertiary and professional sector. They may experience alienation from their local community, school community and family; there have been reports to suggest that those who undergo teenage abortions are likely to have dysfunctional relationships, both within their family and with their peers; thoughts of suicide, committing suicide, substance abuse and the like.
http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1475/26/
So... "exposing children to sex is not bad... but it is because it affects a child's development"? Kind of contradicting yourself there.
That was taken out of context again - I'm arguing that:
- Exposing children to sex within healthy boundaries, and in a gradual way, is good - they need sex education. Then, in the phrase omitted above, I argue that too much exposure to sex and/or exposure to sex in an inappropriate way, e.g. through seeing stripping, or showing them sexual media content (see link below), can have dangerous consequences on a child's development because it makes them more likely to develop a hyper-sexualized personality and point-of-view, increasing the risk of teenage promiscuity and a general loss of focus in these important years.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/117/4/1018.full.pdf+html
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