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BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« on: December 29, 2012, 12:14:56 pm »
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I'm intending to do Bachelor of Science (Science Scholar Program) in 2013, and I have several questions regarding it:
1. I've done UMEP Japanese during VCE, can I gain credits for it as breadth/elective (or whatever it is called at Monash) if I do BSc?
2. Is it possible to do a 2nd year subject straight away in 1st year provided no prerequisites are needed? In terms of both uni policy and difficulty.
3. Has anyone completed or is completing the degree in 2 years? And would you recommend to do so?

Any comments would be much appriciated!!

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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 02:25:17 pm »
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I know that you can do MTH2010 (Multivariable Calculus, second-year maths) in second semester if you do MTH1030/MTH1035 in first semester. And from another thread, if you did Uni Maths in VCE, you can get MTH1030 (a first year maths) credited, so maybe you can do second-year maths in first year straight up D:

What is your reason for completing the degree in 2 years? Accommodation? Costs? International student?
I wouldn't recommend this course of action. The uni years are going to be your most fun years XD



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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 02:33:07 pm »
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I know that you can do MTH2010 (Multivariable Calculus, second-year maths) in second semester if you do MTH1030/MTH1035 in first semester. And from another thread, if you did Uni Maths in VCE, you can get MTH1030 (a first year maths) credited, so maybe you can do second-year maths in first year straight up D:

What is your reason for completing the degree in 2 years? Accommodation? Costs? International student?
I wouldn't recommend this course of action. The uni years are going to be your most fun years XD

I did UMEP Japanese though...

And the reason why I want to finish my bachelor in 2 yrs is that I'm planning to do honours and PhD eventually so it would be sort of better to finish the normal bachelor degree asap, not that I have to though

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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 04:02:42 pm »
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I can't answer the UMEP question, I have no idea about that stuff XD

I'm also *thinking* about doing a PhD (I just finished first year science at Monash) but I want to do Masters, not Honours, just to stay at uni for longer :P haha

What field do you want to do the PhD in?



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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 04:26:22 pm »
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I can't answer the UMEP question, I have no idea about that stuff XD

I'm also *thinking* about doing a PhD (I just finished first year science at Monash) but I want to do Masters, not Honours, just to stay at uni for longer :P haha

What field do you want to do the PhD in?

I wanna do maths, possibly pure maths ;)
What about you?

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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 06:25:12 pm »
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I'm also *thinking* about doing a PhD (I just finished first year science at Monash) but I want to do Masters, not Honours, just to stay at uni for longer :P haha
 

why not both?

2nd year subjects usually build on 1st year subjects. that sounds like a prestigious program so you could try asking for permission to skip to second year subjects if you have self studied the prerequisites. why do you want to complete it in two years anyway? like DisaFear, i intend on prolonging my stay at uni for as long as possible lol

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 06:35:30 pm »
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What about you?

Probably in the field of Chemistry :)

why not both?

You mean do both Honours and Masters? That seems a bit overkill. They both lead to PhD, right?
And from a thread long ago, I think TrueTears said Masters is superior to Honours in most fields



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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 06:56:38 pm »
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Hello!

With respect to your three queries, I'm not too familiar with the first, because I didn't do any MUEP extension units, and the people in the ScSchProg. in my year level didn't credit their units, I think. I remember during Orientation though, that the course coordinator said it was possible (anyway, I think when you originally submit your units, you will have one of the course coordinators with you, so you can talk about prior unit credit then, if not, it'll definitely be somewhere during the enrolment process).

It is possible to do a 2nd year subject (technically, it's a 2nd-level subject) in 1st year. DisaFear is correct in stating that MTH2010(or MTH2015) can be taken in second semester if you do MTH1030/1035 in 1st semester. It's also possible to do MTH2032 (Differential Equations) or MTH2021 (Linear Algebra) after having done MTH1030. (I know two or three people who did MTH2032 in their 2nd semester of 1st year, and two who were doing MTH2021 in their second semester).

If you did MUEP Maths (MTH1040), it may also be possible to do the second-year maths unit Real Analysis (which runs in 1st semester), which another guy did. In terms of difficulty, I've only experienced MTH2015 (and therefore MTH2010, as the lectures are shared). To me, difficulty of MTH2010 didn't seem to really increase compared to MTH1030. I haven't heard from the  guys who did MTH2032 or MTH2021. The guy who did MUEP Maths told me he just managed to HD Real Analysis, so doing a 2nd year maths unit straight up is certainly no mean feat.

With regard to the acceleration of your course, in my humble opinion, it's probably better that you don't. You've stated you would like to do Honours and a Ph.D, a choice I have great respect for. In order to do Honours, it's necessary to have 4 3rd year units in relevant units (3 of which must be related to the area you wish to do Honours in) and it's a really really good idea to get good scores in Uni, so that you have a chance at getting Honours scholarships (moreover, you need at least a Distinction average in those units to qualify, scholarship or no scholarship). To me, it just seems like an increased difficulty to be doing higher-level units in your earlier years at uni (just my two cents' worth).

 

why not both?

2nd year subjects usually build on 1st year subjects. that sounds like a prestigious program so you could try asking for permission to skip to second year subjects if you have self studied the prerequisites. why do you want to complete it in two years anyway? like DisaFear, i intend on prolonging my stay at uni for as long as possible lol

There are forms that you can fill in to take a unit without its prerequisite(s), but you'll need the permission of the unit coordinator in the end.

Anyways, if you do end up joining the scholar program, I hope to see you at Monash next year!

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Re: BSc(ScSchProg) Questions
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 06:57:30 pm »
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not if you want to stay at uni for longer haha xD
 sorry Mathaholic, i didnt see your reason there. in my opinion, it would better not to try to rush things and just take the time to learn all the foundations thoroughly