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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2013, 07:05:40 pm »
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and optimum muscle gain is failure. its physical inability to push anymore

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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #76 on: January 19, 2013, 07:35:11 pm »
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^^ Awesome Awesome Post!!!

So you're saying that if you cut your carbs, you'll reduce the glucose in your blood? I thought glucose came mostly from sugar haha. Boy I have a lot to learn.

The problem I have now is that I've lost a lot of weight since last year. I'm 174cm and weigh 69kg, I've noticed that my arms have lost a lot of strength and size, my neck is a lot skinnier. However my belly fat is still there!!!! I know I have to get rid of the fat there if I'm ever going have defined and visible abs, but I really don't want to get skinnier and lose more muscle mass either. I also know that I can't spot lose fat. :(

Should I be eating less, but lots of protein or??

That growth hormone tip is great!!

So I do, Back and Biceps, Chest and Triceps, Legs and Abs.

With my sets, should I mix the muscles up? Should I do all back first, then biceps and repeat for each set. Or should I interchange to allow more rest?

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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #77 on: January 19, 2013, 07:37:30 pm »
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^^ Awesome Awesome Post!!!

So you're saying that if you cut your carbs, you'll reduce the glucose in your blood? I thought glucose came mostly from sugar haha. Boy I have a lot to learn.

Carbohydrates are polymers of simple sugars - i.e. glucose or fructose :).
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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #78 on: January 19, 2013, 07:40:01 pm »
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ok guys i need a bit of motivation! i love gym and that has been going well. but i find it so hard to eat well for weight loss! its so friggen fustrating, any tips??
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« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2013, 07:48:49 pm »
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ok guys i need a bit of motivation! i love gym and that has been going well. but i find it so hard to eat well for weight loss! its so friggen fustrating, any tips??

I'd make sure to include some running/ short sprints into your gym workouts, that sort of exercise requires a good balanced diet.

Try this site: http://www.taste.com.au/ There is an advanced search option where you can check boxes for things like low fat, high protein etc. for when you are cooking at home

Make sure your diet is high enough protein, has lots of fresh fruit and vegetables and the appropriate amount of carbohydrates (not refined) for when you are going to burn off energy. I think also if you have someone supporting you it's going to be a lot easier, so for example ask your family if you can construct a meal plan for the week and stick to it. Sticking to portion sizes can also help, for example you might have some pasta, so have a side salad with it too and then you can have less pasta (oil and balsamic vinegar are a great combination and it's just a quick meal in general).

If you are having one of those days where you are feeling hungry after you keep eating, try to have some cereal with milk or other dairy products like yoghurt (these are also a good substitute if you feel you must need a late night snack). Other times you may find that you are hungry could be between breakfast and lunch, Hot green tea is good to have because it takes you a while to drink it.

Although you are trying to eat healthy, it's also important not to deprive yourself when you really want something delicious. If you want a cookie or something, maybe go with one that has oatmeal and raisins in it and just have half of the cookie (it's quite easy to swap junk food for something that has a bit more health benefits, so here you may swap triple chocolate cookie for an oatmeal cookie), someone else can eat the other half etc.

Hope this helps, feel free to PM me if you ever need help with this stuff :)
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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2013, 07:49:23 pm »
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yes, cutting carbs will lower your blood glucose. if you mush a bunch of sugars together, you get a carb. so it takes longer to digest a carb, because your body has to break it up first, but end result is still glucose in your blood, it just takes longer to get there (which is good, big energy spikes => fat storage, because you cant use it all in time).

unfortunately, you cant selectively lose fat, it all comes off your body together. the body has fat storage preference, and they are:
men: belly and chest (man-boobs)
women: belly, hips and glutes

that means that these are the last places you will lose your fat from, and unfortunately there isnt a way to change this.
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So I do, Back and Biceps, Chest and Triceps, Legs and Abs.
this depends on how long youve been training for. this sounds really good for a beginner, but i dont know how long youve been doing this for.
to know what to train with what, you need to understand the functions of the muscles.
Back+biceps is great because: the function of lats is shoulder extension (pulling the humerus closer the trunk). the function of biceps is elbow flexion (and forearm supination). almost all back excercises involve some degree of elbow flexion, so that means your biceps will inevitably be worked if you do back, so finishing off a back day with your biceps is great. its the same with chest/triceps, chest pushes from the shoulder (internal shoulder rotation) and triceps push from the elbow (elbow extension), so thats a great combo to work together.

this means you should train all back, then all biceps, or all chest, then all triceps. take for example, bench press. its a compound movement, that uses chest, delts, and triceps. of the three, chest is the largest muscle, ie. it will fail LAST. so when you bench press cos you want a bigger chest, think about it - the muscle that you want to grow is not the muscle which will fail first. when you get to your last rep, and you just CANT push it anymore, which muscle will hurt the most? it wont be your chest, thats the biggest, its going to be your triceps (or delts if you have bad form). so would you then go and train triceps first? OH HELL NO!! (lol). what you would do, is pick an isolation excercise for chest, and do that before your bench press, so when you go and bench press, your chest is only at half its strength. thats why my working bench press sets are only like, 50kgs. (this is where its important to know the difference between body building and powerlifting)
legs are massive, and can make you throw up and feel sick for an hour after if you push to your max. as such, i dont train abs with legs because i physically cant, but if you pull and push and workout everything else, core strength is developed without you trying. train abs on your lightest day.

the only thing i would change, is to throw in some shoulders. i neglected shoulders at the start and im paying for it now.

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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2013, 07:52:01 pm »
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ok guys i need a bit of motivation! i love gym and that has been going well. but i find it so hard to eat well for weight loss! its so friggen fustrating, any tips??
i have sat/sun off dieting, and its important you have at least 1 day off per week.
before you eat something that deviates from your plan, look at it closely, and make a conscious decision. pick one, whether you want the food, or the success more, and whichever one you pick, DO NOT regret your decision. you will find that you'll want to stick to your plan more than eat chocolate every single time.

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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2013, 07:53:23 pm »
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Does anyone know of any proven ways to strengthen your back that you can do at home? I do a fair bit of jogging/running (3 or 4 times a week) and back/ shoulder aches have become more common
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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2013, 07:55:16 pm »
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Does anyone know of any proven ways to strengthen your back that you can do at home? I do a fair bit of jogging/running (3 or 4 times a week) and back/ shoulder aches have become more common
pullups? if theyre difficult you can start with chin ups

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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2013, 07:58:10 pm »
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Thanks man, I really haven't started as such.. I've been very lazy unmotivated to some days I get up and do it and then I give up next week, I'm now getting into the habit of it.

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this means you should train all back, then all biceps, or all chest, then all triceps.

This is for each set yeah?


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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2013, 08:00:07 pm »
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yeah for each set, and each excercise. for instance, my current chest triceps routine is:

machine flyes
BB bench press
DB incline press
Dips
Triceps cable extension
triceps kickbacks

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« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2013, 08:03:25 pm »
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Ahh okay, that makes sense. I'm only doing this at home for now. I think a gym membership is too costly at this stage, I'm also worrying about being too lazy to study because when I come home, I'll be tired and just want to rest.

I do have a home gym though, but I feel that free weights are better. Running is sufficient for a leg workout isn't it.. I'll have to do something more.
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Re: Gym Thread (2013)
« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2013, 08:04:57 pm »
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Running is sufficient for a leg workout isn't it.. I'll have to do something more.

Don't forget cycling! (you can always change the gears)
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« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2013, 08:06:39 pm »
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I do have a home gym though, but I feel that free weights are better. Running is sufficient for a leg workout isn't it.. I'll have to do something more.
OH HELL NAW! sorry, buttttttt noooooo!!!!!!!!! theres plenty you can do with freeweights at home for legs, squats and lunges should be plenty :)

also, youll be very upset with yourself if you work really hard on your legs for a year, buyt neglect your calves, and cycling is very good for calves (Y)

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« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2013, 08:19:10 pm »
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