University Grades

[Pup]

Just wondering how hard is it to achieve 80-90% in a university subject? What do you have to do in order to achieve such high marks?
What would be the absolute average mark in university?

Thanks

[Hancock]

Honestly, it depends on the person. It also depends on how much work you are willing to put into your university studies that is not required by the course.

For example: Physics 1 and 2 at UoM have horrendous homework requirements. And when I mean horrendous, I mean 5 questions a week. I bought the book (Physics for Eng and Sci) and did every second chapter question, even if it was harder than expected. I got a 95 for Physics 1 and a 93 for Physics 2. I believe I wholeheartedly earned those marks.

On the other hand, I did minimal semester work for ESD1, crammed assignments and the exam and pulled at 91. It does depends on how much quickly you can absorb material and how much 'independant' work you put in.

I'm trying to come off as humble, but any posts that have marks in it always come off as a bit arrogant (or bitter), especially if the title of the thread is about H1 marks. I'm not meaning to be haha.

EDIT: H1's are reserved for the top 5-8% of the cohort of a subject if I'm not mistaken. The absolute average mark is around 65 - 70 from personal experience talking to many people. Some people are absolute guns, and some people are scrapping with Ps. It averages out.

[Hehetymen]

Depends on the subject. For my breadth last semester I skipped pretty much all the lectures, didn't catch up, and only went to the tutorials cos the attendance was worth 10%. Literally crammed 3 days before the exam since the topics were REALLY easy and a fair bit common sense. Got an H2A. Would've got H1 but I dun goofed on my essay.

[simpak]

Step 1: be as awesome as me.

Lawlll.

[Gloamglozer]

Step 1: be as awesome as me.

Lawlll.

So you = Barney Stinson ?

[Graphite]

Honestly, it depends on the person. It also depends on how much work you are willing to put into your university studies that is not required by the course.

For example: Physics 1 and 2 at UoM have horrendous homework requirements. And when I mean horrendous, I mean 5 questions a week. I bought the book (Physics for Eng and Sci) and did every second chapter question, even if it was harder than expected. I got a 95 for Physics 1 and a 93 for Physics 2. I believe I wholeheartedly earned those marks.

On the other hand, I did minimal semester work for ESD1, crammed assignments and the exam and pulled at 91. It does depends on how much quickly you can absorb material and how much 'independant' work you put in.

I'm trying to come off as humble, but any posts that have marks in it always come off as a bit arrogant (or bitter), especially if the title of the thread is about H1 marks. I'm not meaning to be haha.

EDIT: H1's are reserved for the top 5-8% of the cohort of a subject if I'm not mistaken. The absolute average mark is around 65 - 70 from personal experience talking to many people. Some people are absolute guns, and some people are scrapping with Ps. It averages out.

there's scaling at uom?

[simpak]

there's scaling at uom?

Sometimes.

And yes, Gloamgloazer that pretty much sums it up!

[Starlight]

This is my take on the topic:

In most cases, if you want a H1 enough then you'll get a H1.
Of course it depends on the subjects you do, for example I found my arts breadth subjects were significantly harder than my science subjects because they didn't really come naturally to me.

For science subjects there are heaps of resources that will help you out. For example, for chemistry you have:

- 2 different textbooks and each contains chapter review questions
- Access to practice exams (about 6)
- Tutorial questions from your workbook (those are the sorts of questions you have to master before the exam in order to do well)

However, keep in mind there will be subjects where you DON'T have access to practice exams. Some subjects will only give you a 'sample paper' to give you an indication of the 'types of questions' that will be on the exam, for example Biology. For most subjects though, there will always be readings (which are designed to give you a better understanding of different topics covered in the lecture notes, keep in mind the content of the lecture notes is what is examinable) and often they do contain questions and questions from your tutorial workbook.

I'm pretty sure there is some sort of scaling that occurs for end of year marks though, so that's also another reason why students who do the most work tend to perform quite well in comparison to others (in most cases, other times you just get lucky)

[Special At Specialist]

How much study do you do at university to get those H1 marks? More or less than year 12?

[Hancock]

I reckon about the same, but it's not quite as stressful when exams come around for me.

[JinXi]

How much study do you do at university to get those H1 marks? More or less than year 12?

I'll say more than VCE. I've crammed for VCE (started exams paper in swotvac) and my last 2 years of uni (also only started learning the content seriously in swotvac). The difference in cramming for uni compared to VCE is the content taught in uni is significantly tougher that what is taught in VCE, therefore takes a longer time to understand. It doesn't help that sometimes the lecturer gets confused with his own material (which is understandable for certain units), and puts the wrong information into the lecture slides. It then takes extra time to search up the correct information in the library. This never happens in VCE.

That being said, I'm not one of those perfectionist people when it comes to studying so once I get the feeling that I roughly understand a concept, I hardly ever touch on it again which obviously results in stupid mistakes

Tbh though it's really up to each individual. It's hard to compare something like uni to VCE, especially when the courses and even units are so different to others.

P.S. In case it's not completely obvious in my sig, I'm talking in terms of engineering units. Oh yeah, and I go to Monash which has HD instead of H1.

[b^3]

To be honest, I think I put more time into studying in VCE, but have put more effort into uni, but thats just me, uni requires a different type of learning to VCE. It's not just all understand and spam questions anymore, well it will depend on the degree but still, they way you get the content is different, and it took me a semester or so to adjust to find my new way of learning. But that was just for me anyway.