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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2013, 10:55:45 pm »
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Did you play to your strengths and make use of the "bottom 2" aspect of the ATAR

That's what I did when I purposely neglected Specialist to focus on my other subjects, and things worked out well for me.

I wouldn't think it's particularly uncommon, and I'd say it's definitely something to keep in mind.
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2013, 11:22:49 pm »
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In my personal but possibly biased opinion, Literature.  It's the subject most dominated by people who have a particular proficiency for the subject: Lit is known to be "hard" but doesn't have the appeal that Spesh does with scaling, ergo you don't get a lot of weaker kids taking it for scaling purposes padding out the lower ranges, and as a result, it's mostly taken by people interested in it/good at it, ergo the general standard becomes quite high.  The erratic nature of it also means that at the top end in particular it can be hard to secure perfect marks (eg. a guy from my school from 2009 who got like five Premier's Awards and and five 50s got his only non-50 in Lit - he got a 50 in English btw).

I agree with this 100%. People in my school were getting 35's in English (scaled to 33) and 25's in literature (scaled to 26), yet they claimed to have put more effort into lit than English. I honestly think that literature should be scaled the same as specialist maths, because it is just as competitive.
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2013, 11:30:37 pm »
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That's what I did when I purposely neglected Specialist to focus on my other subjects, and things worked out well for me.

I wouldn't think it's particularly uncommon, and I'd say it's definitely something to keep in mind.

Congratulations on your study scores and ATAR! Some crazy results you got there O_O
I guess perhaps I'll start off with trying to do my best in all, and if I realise I'm getting sick of one or really think it won't work out, I'll just use its time to better my other subjects. Let's just hope it isn't English - but I doubt that'd be the case. :)
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2013, 11:49:26 pm »
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Yeah I thought about that. I don't think I'm too worried about politics, I just don't have the same confidence in it as my other subjects. But thankfully my year 11 scores allow me to have it in my bottom 2, provided I whoop English/Philosophy in the ass, and still get mid 99. (Which is much safer and higher, but I'm really just looking to get above 99) But that doesn't seem like the 'right' thing to do.
Which is what I was getting at. You only really need English/Psych, but in case one of them doesn't go that well (and shit happens in exams), then Further might be a good fallback option for a different subject in Top 4.

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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2013, 12:16:35 am »
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Which is what I was getting at. You only really need English/Psych, but in case one of them doesn't go that well (and shit happens in exams), then Further might be a good fallback option for a different subject in Top 4.

Ahh I guess that's something to consider. Not sure how much of a 'risk' it is to continue with these subjects. Besides, they all compliment each other very well. (May run the problem of getting sick of it all though.) Hmmm hmmm hmmm my heart says just go with your subjects, your genuine interest will help you find your way and it will end up fine, but I guess my head is nervous and it's saying be tactful! :P
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2013, 12:21:03 am »
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Congratulations on your study scores and ATAR! Some crazy results you got there O_O
I guess perhaps I'll start off with trying to do my best in all, and if I realise I'm getting sick of one or really think it won't work out, I'll just use its time to better my other subjects. Let's just hope it isn't English - but I doubt that'd be the case. :)

Haha, thanks. My results definitely exceeded all my expectations.

I also started off the year putting effort into Specialist and doing all the work. After a few weeks, though, I realised that it was taking up too much of my time, and I wasn't really enjoying it, so I figured it would be more efficient for me to devote the extra time to my other subjects. So yeah, just wait and see how you feel about your subjects, then go from there.

From your amazing study scores so far, I have a feeling that you're going to do brilliantly anyway, so just try to relax and enjoy the year. :)
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2013, 12:32:22 am »
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Haha, thanks. My results definitely exceeded all my expectations.

I also started off the year putting effort into Specialist and doing all the work. After a few weeks, though, I realised that it was taking up too much of my time, and I wasn't really enjoying it, so I figured it would be more efficient for me to devote the extra time to my other subjects. So yeah, just wait and see how you feel about your subjects, then go from there.

From your amazing study scores so far, I have a feeling that you're going to do brilliantly anyway, so just try to relax and enjoy the year. :)

Yeah, I reckon that's how I'll go about it! And thanks so much ^___^ I'm really looking forward to this year; it'll be crazy but I reckon it'll still be my favourite. :D
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2013, 04:17:08 am »
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I figured it would be more efficient for me to devote the extra time to my other subjects
absolutely what I did.
realising that Chem was never going to be in my top 4, I would devoted just about all the time throughout the year that I would have spent on Chem and put that into English and Methods.
Your bottom 2 subjects are worth one tenth of your top 4 - it makes sense to prioritise your time accordingly
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2013, 07:02:40 pm »
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No it isn't. After scaling, scores can be compared to have roughly equal difficulty. Thus, a 40 (scaled) in history is an equivalent achievement to a 40 (scaled) in specialist maths. Scaling has nothing to do with innate difficulty of the subject (except amongst the maths, which are objectively compared to each other) and everything to do with the strength of the cohort that takes the subject.

No it isn't. After scaling, scores can be compared to have roughly equal difficulty. Thus, a 40 (scaled) in history is an equivalent achievement to a 40 (scaled) in specialist maths. Scaling has nothing to do with innate difficulty of the subject (except amongst the maths, which are objectively compared to each other) and everything to do with the strength of the cohort that takes the subject.

No offense but from direct experience, the difficulty of History was equivalent to that of Specialist Maths. However, considering the number of dates that I had to learn and the sheer quantity of course material I had to commit to memory, I expected to do far better in History than in Spesh, but Spesh topped the lot with the scaling. History was scaled up a meagre 1 point and the amount of effort I put into the subject did not lead to a direct increase in my score. Mathematic and science subjects on the other hand, you do more practice exams and you are practically guaranteed to do well. With humanities, you simply have to be talented in the way you word things. That talent will pay off in marks.

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Are humanities your strength and how strong was your cohort?
My GAT (and I put effort into the GAT and didn't just blow it off), shows Maths/Science as 47, Writing as 46 and Humanities as 44. My GAT was also an uncanny predictor of my performance in my subjects. I don't really have stengths/weaknesses. All subjects are roughly the same for me. Cohorts were all strong but I had a crappy, crappy Spesh teacher.

My 41 in Spesh went up to 51.25 after scaling and my 44 in History went up to 45. So at the end of the day, scaling meant I got a 99.35. If I didn't have Spesh, I would not have gotten a high mark. So scaling makes an enormous difference. I chose History because I had an awesome teacher but to get the super high marks.... well good luck in humanities. Some of my students in my cohort were fainting from the effort of doing History and Global. I'm not sure about the other humanities, but it would not be an ultra good idea to do loads of them. You'll be writing essays and notes for _every_single_one Balance is good.

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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2013, 07:25:42 pm »
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No offense but from direct experience, the difficulty of History was equivalent to that of Specialist Maths. However, considering the number of dates that I had to learn and the sheer quantity of course material I had to commit to memory, I expected to do far better in History than in Spesh, but Spesh topped the lot with the scaling. History was scaled up a meagre 1 point and the amount of effort I put into the subject did not lead to a direct increase in my score. Mathematic and science subjects on the other hand, you do more practice exams and you are practically guaranteed to do well. With humanities, you simply have to be talented in the way you word things. That talent will pay off in marks.
My GAT (and I put effort into the GAT and didn't just blow it off), shows Maths/Science as 47, Writing as 46 and Humanities as 44. My GAT was also an uncanny predictor of my performance in my subjects. I don't really have stengths/weaknesses. All subjects are roughly the same for me. Cohorts were all strong but I had a crappy, crappy Spesh teacher.

My 41 in Spesh went up to 51.25 after scaling and my 44 in History went up to 45. So at the end of the day, scaling meant I got a 99.35. If I didn't have Spesh, I would not have gotten a high mark. So scaling makes an enormous difference. I chose History because I had an awesome teacher but to get the super high marks.... well good luck in humanities. Some of my students in my cohort were fainting from the effort of doing History and Global. I'm not sure about the other humanities, but it would not be an ultra good idea to do loads of them. You'll be writing essays and notes for _every_single_one Balance is good.

I see, thanks for your thoughts. :)

I guess it's just annoying that to have a more joyful year, doing the subjects I know I like, it's a fair bit harder to get the score I want. But I'm okay with that :)

Haha ah the GAT... I should probably take it more seriously next year. :S Last year I did it on an all-nighter and decided to just guess the multi-choice... But then I couldn't really do any 'guessing' for writing so I did the section relatively properly. I got 47 in writing but my other scores were, well, really shameful LOL :(
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2013, 08:00:40 pm »
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Interesting. Guess you'll do really well on English then  ;D
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2013, 08:28:12 pm »
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This guy at my old school got like a 99.95 with only humanities subjects + a language. It's possible.
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2013, 11:13:38 pm »
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Haha ah the GAT... I should probably take it more seriously next year. :S
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2013, 02:32:12 pm »
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Wait what

THIS YEAR
THIS YEAR

Damn it.. LOL
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Re: Getting 99 with humanities subjects
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2013, 02:41:57 pm »
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This guy at my old school got like a 99.95 with only humanities subjects + a language. It's possible.
Yay for possibility!! I'm hoping to get at least 99+
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