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Should guns be banned in America?

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Should guns be banned in America?
« on: February 07, 2013, 05:39:41 pm »
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Should guns be banned in America? What is your opinion?

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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 05:45:28 pm »
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Personally, I believe gun laws should definitely be banned- I dont see why they aren't already? :o

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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 05:56:05 pm »
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Well I strongly doubt EVERY type of gun will be banned from the US soon, it's gonna take ages.
First the Congress must start with banning the warfare type of guns, there is no need for public to own them, and they should be used by the army/police force.
The Second Amendment was written aggeessss ago, when only a few types of guns were present, the types that only fired 1-3 bullets each minute. You can't keep the amendment when there are so many powerful guns around, it just doesn't apply anymore.
 
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 06:01:30 pm »
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Personally, I believe gun laws should definitely be banned- I dont see why they aren't already? :o

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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 06:01:41 pm »
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Personally, I believe gun laws should definitely be banned- I dont see why they aren't already? :o

Because some americans believe that by not letting them have guns you are taking away their freedom or some flimsy excuse like that.

I agree that not all guns should be banned, people that are law enforcement, hunters or farmers or the like obvious need a gun for their job but everyone else  shouldnt be allowed to have one. The mass killings that happen all the time surely show that the guns are doing so much harm.
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 06:08:21 pm »
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I agree, but im just so confused why its taking so long for America to alter the amendments and for people to realize how important it is for bear arms to be ban especially after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, which has triggered the debate. 20 adults and six children died, however this was not the first but second deadliest school shooting in US history.

I understand some people argue it is "a right to bear arms" according to the American constitution however the government has a responsibility to prevent or minimize crimes and in order to do this, banning guns is essential.

According to statistics  US makes up 5% of the world’s population yet 30-50% of the world’s civilian owned guns.  There are 88 guns per 100 people. Even more surprising there are 129,817 firearms dealers in American juxtaposed to 14,098 McDonalds.  wow.

Also since 1982, there have been at least 61 mass murders in which  49/61 of the mass murders were caused by legal purchased guns in conjunction to the 10/61 which were purchased illegally.

Yet still after all these facts only half of America believes guns should be banned while the other half still argue it to be a "right" they are entitled to?

Yes, I agree. Not all guns should be banned obviously some people do require them for their job purposes but I am against normal people from public to be carrying guns on them as a 'weapon'.
 
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 06:11:07 pm »
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I agree, but im just so confused why its taking so long for America to alter the amendments and for people to realize how important it is for bear arms to be ban especially after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, which has triggered the debate. 20 adults and six children died, however this was not the first but second deadliest school shooting in US history.

I understand some people argue it is "a right to bear arms" according to the American constitution however the government has a responsibility to prevent or minimize crimes and in order to do this, banning guns is essential.

According to statistics  US makes up 5% of the world’s population yet 30-50% of the world’s civilian owned guns.  There are 88 guns per 100 people. Even more surprising there are 129,817 firearms dealers in American juxtaposed to 14,098 McDonalds.  wow.

Also since 1982, there have been at least 61 mass murders in which  49/61 of the mass murders were caused by legal purchased guns in conjunction to the 10/61 which were purchased illegally.

Yet still after all these facts only half of America believes guns should be banned while the other half still argue it to be a "right" they are entitled to?

It's easy for us to say this, and I agree with you that America would be a much better place without guns, but we have to understand that Americans are brought up in a culture where guns are more a norm rather than an exception, and for many people getting rid of guns is anathema. Their right to have a gun is something they hold seriously dear to them, and it does block out the damning stats that say "erm guys...perhaps guns is not the greatest idea." It doesn't help that the NRA is an EXTREMELY powerful lobby.
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 06:11:36 pm »
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Americans are obsessed with freedom. They will happily amend the constitution if it means they get more freedom (such as the 21st amendment repealing the 18th amendment on alcohol prohibition), but they will never repeal it if it means taking away their freedom (the 2nd amendment allows them to own guns), even if thousands die as a result of it. I'm so glad that I don't live in the USA.
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 06:15:05 pm »
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I'm so glad that I don't live in the USA.

Why not? Solely because of gun laws?

I agree, but im just so confused why its taking so long for America to alter the amendments

Adding a new amendment to invalidate an old amendment is really not that easy...

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I understand some people argue it is "a right to bear arms" according to the American constitution however the government has a responsibility to prevent or minimize crimes and in order to do this, banning guns is essential.

What makes you think that banning guns is essential for this?


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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 06:18:14 pm »
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"Americans are brought up in a culture where guns are more a norm rather than an exception"- I agree Americans are brought up in a culture where guns have become a "norm", however such culture needs to be altered when it becomes a threat. Does this "culture" of there's justify the amount of deaths that occur every year due to firearms?

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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 06:20:16 pm »
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Why not? Solely because of gun laws?

Not solely because of gun laws, also because of their religious fanaticism, the global financial crisis, their lack of socialised medicine, their school/college system, their lack of Government welfare and the amount of worldwide enemies that they have, not that any of this is particularly relevant to the discussion on gun laws...
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Re: Should guns be banned in America?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 06:23:04 pm »
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Why not? Solely because of gun laws?

Adding a new amendment to invalidate an old amendment is really not that easy...

What makes you think that banning guns is essential for this?

Firstly, mass deaths have been occurring since 1900's as a direct result of the amendment which gives the Americans the right to bear arms....  its 2013 now......I think they have had a lot of time to make this amendment- I studied legal studies, it does take years to alter 1 amendment.

I think it is essential based on the fact 49/61 mass deaths that took place in US, were with legally purchased firearms- THEY WERE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE THESE FIREARMS and what happened? innocent people died!
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 06:27:47 pm »
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Firstly, mass deaths have been occurring since 1900's as a direct result of the amendment which gives the Americans the right to bear arms....  its 2013 now......I think they have had a lot of time to make this amendment- I studied legal studies, it does take years to alter 1 amendment.

I think it is essential based on the fact 49/61 mass deaths that took place in US, were with legally purchased firearms- THEY WERE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE THESE FIREARMS and what happened? innocent people died!

Im sure mass deaths happen everywhere, we just dont here about it.
The around the same time the sandy hook killings occurred there was a mass killing as well in china with about the same amount of people killing.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 06:31:05 pm »
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Im sure mass deaths happen everywhere, we just dont here about it.
The around the same time the sandy hook killings occurred there was a mass killing as well in china with about the same amount of people killing.

Actually, you're wrong there. ZERO PEOPLE DIED in the china stabbings. Although around 25 people were stabbed, none of the injuries were fatal. That is the difference between a gun and a knife.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 06:33:29 pm »
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Im sure mass deaths happen everywhere, we just dont here about it.
The around the same time the sandy hook killings occurred there was a mass killing as well in china with about the same amount of people killing.
Im sure there was but in China NO ONE DIED. No country can compete with the total amount of mass deaths that have occurred in America. How many mass deaths have taken place in China?