Help? I'm genuinely scared.

[yuzy]

How? Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.

MHS Social in 6 words

[brenden]

I also share a birthday with Chuck Norris. Legit. March 10th, babeh.

[abcdqd]

I can confirm.

Also - I forgot. A guy by the name of Stephen Tan *bows three times* was the first person to ever 90+ my school. Also in 2008, also in the second year of the school running a VCE program (KB and P-12 are quite similar). Anyway, Stephen Tan *bows three times* was like "y'know what, fuck it, I'm graduating in a year where the average study score is 25 I'M GONNA GET A FUCKING 99.5". This guy slept at his desk because he'd be doing Spesh until the early hours of the morning. And that is the story of Stephen Tan *bows three times*.


I'd also like to point out: The year I graduated we weren't the worst in the state, we averaged 31 :D. All the shit cunts went to VCAL trololol.

records say that guys name is samuel tan ;O

[xlaiyn]

Yeah I know what you mean man. I really hated high-school for a very long time. Kids joke about school being a prison but dead set that's what school was for me lol.... At the end of the day, it doesn't matter where you are or who you're friends with, what school you go to. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work as hard. Hard work beats money when money doesn't work as hard. Nothing matters if you're ready to grind.


Brendinkles with some big-ass paragraphs: out.

Dude, your school sounds almost exactly like mine. That made me feel a fuckload better. I've been so panicky about the whole thing (and personal issues lol) that I've had to go on stronger anti-depressants and anxiety tablets. >:c

when Brendinkles makes a huge-ass comment, thunder happens.

Does this mean that anytime I need a huge-ass essay on what to do with VCE, I should light am array of candles, stand in front of my mirror and chant "Brendinkles" repeatedly? Or will that somehow indirectly summon our dark lord, Satan?

[Jayward]

Or will that somehow indirectly summon our dark lord, Satan?

I dont know about you, but I thought Voldemort was the dark lord

Dude, your school sounds almost exactly like mine. That made me feel a fuckload better. I've been so panicky about the whole thing (and personal issues lol) that I've had to go on stronger anti-depressants and anxiety tablets. >:c

I would recommend you go on daily runs to deal with this. I too suffer from anxiety, so I just go for a quick jog to flush out the adrenaline I feel a heap better afterward

[xlaiyn]

I dont know about you, but I thought Voldemort was the dark lord

I would recommend you go on daily runs to deal with this. I too suffer from anxiety, so I just go for a quick jog to flush out the adrenaline I feel a heap better afterward

Perhaps Brendinkles isn't Voldemort, because he seems too nice. Nagini, maybe? Who doesn't want to be a bad-ass snake?

Yeah, I've been doing that.
I have a fair few shitty problems, but I deal with it. PTSD, anxiety, depression and what not, along with some fairly spastic internal problems (ie. I had Burkitt's Lymphoma at age 5 and have to keep getting checked on every few months. -.-). Everyone has problems though, and I refuse to let mine get in the way. And I have a really shitty upbringing/family life to back me up, so one of the main reasons I'm so determined is because I want to do better than what my awful relatives did. So I guess it's not all bad. Aha.

[nacho]

Unless you have a really good work ethic and are extremely motivated in year 12, it doesn't matter if you're from Mac.Rob or literally the worst school in the state, you're not going to get an ATAR in the high 90s.

You're in year 11, it's such a young age to decide what you want to do and this:

I'm hoping to undertake a Bachelor in Biomedicine or a Bachelor in Science, major in Biotechnology, Biochemistry or Molecular Biology, take a fourth year of Honours and then complete a Doctorate of Philosophy (PhD)

seems way too specific. The subjects you do in VCE aren't even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to uni and the workplace. Be prepared to have a totally different pathway than to what you have mapped out.
Obtaining a bachelor in science doesn't require an ATAR in the high 90s, it's relatively low actually.

The ATAR is  overrated in terms of importance. An internal transfer, in my opinion is much more easier than achieving a high atar to get into your course.
Also, don't get stuck behind the notion that 'you'll be wasting a whole year'. You'll still have completed a number of units in uni which will contribute to your degree. You've wasted no time at all.

[brenden]

records say that guys name is samuel tan ;O

Oh my God I am so sorry. Yes, his name in 2008 was Samuel Tan *bows three times.*
There is also Sharon Tan *bows three times*, the next eldest, and then Stephen Tan *bows three times*, who graduated in 2012 with 99.25. If you had ever met Stephen/Sam Tan *bows six times*, you would understand how I get mixed up so frequently.

Dude, your school sounds almost exactly like mine. That made me feel a fuckload better. I've been so panicky about the whole thing (and personal issues lol) that I've had to go on stronger anti-depressants and anxiety tablets. >:c

Does this mean that anytime I need a huge-ass essay on what to do with VCE, I should light am array of candles, stand in front of my mirror and chant "Brendinkles" repeatedly? Or will that somehow indirectly summon our dark lord, Satan?

Work and and breathe deep - it'll get you through anything . I hope things get better soon, honest.

No, I will be summoned. But if you mentioned Satan enough times, it summons our very own dark lord, Enwiabe.

I do agree, running is the best medicine. I prefer to think of myself as Neville, except I became more socially confident after the Yule Ball.

[brenden]

...I didn't mean to bold half of that last message... It's become a habit from marking essays /cries/

[xlaiyn]

Unless you have a really good work ethic and are extremely motivated in year 12, it doesn't matter if you're from Mac.Rob or literally the worst school in the state, you're not going to get an ATAR in the high 90s.

You're in year 11, it's such a young age to decide what you want to do and this:seems way too specific. The subjects you do in VCE aren't even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to uni and the workplace. Be prepared to have a totally different pathway than to what you have mapped out.
Obtaining a bachelor in science doesn't require an ATAR in the high 90s, it's relatively low actually.

The ATAR is  overrated in terms of importance. An internal transfer, in my opinion is much more easier than achieving a high atar to get into your course.
Also, don't get stuck behind the notion that 'you'll be wasting a whole year'. You'll still have completed a number of units in uni which will contribute to your degree. You've wasted no time at all.

Bachelor of Science is my backup option. For Melbourne Uni, Bachelor of Biomedicine is around 95.
That's pretty good advice though. I'll look into it.

Oh my God I am so sorry. Yes, his name in 2008 was Samuel Tan *bows three times.*
There is also Sharon Tan *bows three times*, the next eldest, and then Stephen Tan *bows three times*, who graduated in 2012 with 99.25. If you had ever met Stephen/Sam Tan *bows six times*, you would understand how I get mixed up so frequently.
Work and and breathe deep - it'll get you through anything . I hope things get better soon, honest.

No, I will be summoned. But if you mentioned Satan enough times, it summons our very own dark lord, Enwiabe.

I do agree, running is the best medicine. I prefer to think of myself as Neville, except I became more socially confident after the Yule Ball.

Oh my god, I actually love the people here. Finally, a forum I won't get tired of.

[alondouek]

I would recommend you go on daily runs to deal with this. I too suffer from anxiety, so I just go for a quick jog to flush out the adrenaline I feel a heap better afterward

Can confirm; I've suffered from an anxiety/panic disorder since Grade 3 - getting through tough situations like VCE (and to be honest, it doesn't get that much tougher than VCE) is a matter of balance.

Xlaiyn, if you want to succeed in VCE and be better off for it both mentally and physically, you need to find that balance between work and rest (and by rest, I mean getting out and exercising). Personally, running doesn't do much for me, but I can guarantee you that going to the gym shitloads throughout Year 12 is one of the main reasons that I did fairly well (96.55 is okay for my school). When you do strenuous exercise, you demolish stress - and let's not sugar-coat it, there'll be plenty of that for you in the next year and a bit.

For some people, grinding is the way to go - and if you can manage it, by all means. But I don't condone doing so, simply because VCE isn't separate from the rest of your life. In short, if you don't take care of yourself both mentally and physically, it will be extra hard to do well. Studying incessantly, in my opinion, isn't the only key to success.

That isn't to say that you shouldn't work a lot. You'll need to, especially with your subjects (good choices, by the way!). For the vast majority of us, slacking doesn't work - and people tend to slack when they're good at things. For example, I only wrote 3 non-SAC essays for English throughout year 12, and somehow pulled off a 48. DON'T DO THIS. Practice refines everything.

Best of luck, and in case you haven't already noticed - everyone on ATARnotes is here to help. There's someone who can answer any question you have

[xlaiyn]

Can confirm; I've suffered from an anxiety/panic disorder since Grade 3 - getting through tough situations like VCE (and to be honest, it doesn't get that much tougher than VCE) is a matter of balance.

Xlaiyn, if you want to succeed in VCE and be better off for it both mentally and physically, you need to find that balance between work and rest (and by rest, I mean getting out and exercising). Personally, running doesn't do much for me, but I can guarantee you that going to the gym shitloads throughout Year 12 is one of the main reasons that I did fairly well (96.55 is okay for my school). When you do strenuous exercise, you demolish stress - and let's not sugar-coat it, there'll be plenty of that for you in the next year and a bit.

For some people, grinding is the way to go - and if you can manage it, by all means. But I don't condone doing so, simply because VCE isn't separate from the rest of your life. In short, if you don't take care of yourself both mentally and physically, it will be extra hard to do well. Studying incessantly, in my opinion, isn't the only key to success.

That isn't to say that you shouldn't work a lot. You'll need to, especially with your subjects (good choices, by the way!). For the vast majority of us, slacking doesn't work - and people tend to slack when they're good at things. For example, I only wrote 3 non-SAC essays for English throughout year 12, and somehow pulled off a 48. DON'T DO THIS. Practice refines everything.

Best of luck, and in case you haven't already noticed - everyone on ATARnotes is here to help. There's someone who can answer any question you have

Thank you! I love my classes, and if you haven't noticed already, I'm a massive science-enthusiast. I'm so glad I worked up the courage to ask something on these forums. I've been stalking them for the past year, so I figured it was about time to join in.

[brenden]

For some people, grinding is the way to go - and if you can manage it, by all means. But I don't condone doing so, simply because VCE isn't separate from the rest of your life. In short, if you don't take care of yourself both mentally and physically, it will be extra hard to do well. Studying incessantly, in my opinion, isn't the only key to success.

Yeah I would actually follow this advice strictly. Your health and well-being should /always/ be your number one priority. Unfortunately for me, it wasn't in Year 12. I will never forget going three straight days/nights without sleep and then sleeping through morning Psych/recess because I fell behind in my classes and needed to catch up. Balance will /always/ be the key, in everything you do in life. Balance is very, very important. Everything in life should be done holistically imo.
I do apologise for the implications of my original post.

[Fantasia94]

I cannot wait to leave highschool and go to University. I'm hoping to undertake a Bachelor in Biomedicine or a Bachelor in Science, major in Biotechnology, Biochemistry or Molecular Biology, take a fourth year of Honours and then complete a Doctorate of Philosophy (PhD). My main problem is that for each University I've looked at, the minimum ATAR is in the high 90s. I'm determined to get a score of at least 95, but I need some reassurance that its actually possible, along with any possible tips any of you may have.

I'm currently in Year 11, and am studying:

• 1/2 Media
• 1/2 Math Methods (CAS)
• 1/2 Literature
• 1/2 Chemistry
• 1/2 Biology
• 1/2 Text and Traditions (my school made this compulsory. ew)
• 3/4 Software Development

The majority of the cohort in my year level is made up of egotistical dipshits, so I'm at a slight disadvantage if anything ends up being scaled, although I come from a rural highschool, so apparently VCAA will take that into consideration. Help?

I honestly know how you feel Last year, I completed year 12 at one of the worst schools in Victoria (bottom 25% in the state). Before I entered VCE, I hardly learnt anything in class: the teacher would spend 10 minutes teaching and the rest of the time they'll be trying to tell the class off and to quiet down.  As a result, I did enter VCE struggling with English, as it isn't my native language, and understanding the complex concepts of the scientific and maths subjects I chose. I knew this was due to a true waste of my education during years 7-10 but that didn't stop me from trying to achieve my aims of an Atar around 90. However, in year 11 my hopes fell down as I was achieving results that I was completely unsatisfied with despite my hard work in my subjects, a D+ in English and a C on my Biology exams. Then came year 12, a stressful and painful year. I used the summer holiday to read as many complex scientific articles as I could to improve both my English skills and my understanding of my science subjects. Additionally, throughout year 12 I did as many practice exam questions from books I had bought from eBay lol and had written many practice essays. I achieved a 38 in biology, a 35 in English and A on my English exam(D+ in year 11 exam) and an atar of 90. So don't be disheartened if your school is a low performer, what you ultimately will achieve will hopefully come down to YOUR own hard work and dedication towards your studies. Just work hard, never give up and maybe that 95 atar will be waiting for you. Good Luck

[Jayward]

96.55 is okay

O.o okay?! Just goes to show how elite AN forumites actually are.

Back on topic,  its good to be healthy,happy and social (somewhat) even in year 12. If it wasnt for my friends, family and jogging last year, i would have crashed and burned long before the end of year exams. If you balance out your life properly, everything (including academics) will follow an upward trend. Overexerting your energies on any one task is counterproductive and causes for nothing but stress (as alondoek and brendinkles have said previously). If you study 7+ hours after school everyday, for instance, its only a matter of time before you give up on school entirely. Pace yourself, and dont cheat yourself out of enjoying year 12 for what it truly is ~ a year where you can hang out with your childhood friends and pursue fresh dreams. embrace it

And also, i know how much vce emphasises numbers and atar and whatnot... and its great to have a goal in mind... but i implore you to do just one thing. When you sit down to study, make sure that the reason for that study is intrinsic; study because you love the subject, not because you want X study score or Y Atar, at least while youre physically studying. It important to just detach yourself from the statistical monotony of vce as much as you can goodluck

Edit: please ignore spelling mistakes :S I am really tired and i have no idea why Im not trying to get to sleep