Boston explosions

[chasej]

history. otherwise i could be overreacting... i mean okay Osama bin laden as an example maybe this crime is no way near in equal magnitude or effect however this whole war on terror came out because of him and many millions more died for the greater good of democracy. i mean even before 9/11 America wanted to invade Iraq but had no excuse and what happened to the weapons of mass destruction did not exist now why did America invade Iraq beats me i mean yeah fuck  Saddam Hussein but that not the greatest reason maybe it had to do with him selling oil in euros which could damage the American petrol dollar idk. i mean i try to keep conspiracy out of all my conversation

And this has what to do with the topic at hand?

You are wrong on many facts also, but I really cbf explaining to you.

[simpak]

I woke up at like 6am and turned off my iPad alarm and saw the CNN notification come up as 'xxxx bomb xxxx Boston' and I was so tired I was just like '...wait...America Boston?  Is somewhere else in the world called Boston and it's there...?'.  I didn't believe it!
Was pretty shocked (and sleep deprived).  It is terrible!

[Dayman]

And this has what to do with the topic at hand?

You are wrong on many facts also, but I really cbf explaining to you.

Okay....

Ps. It was in reply to greatness/you but I haven't got the hang of this quoting stuff  so I also cbf.

[Professor Polonsky]

Now everyone knows how drone victims feel. Let me guess Obama is going to invade another nation kill another thousand people, kill a further million through starvation. But hey at least the imaginary suspects got what they deserve hallelujah!

im sorry i sound controversial but if it is a terrorist attack all humanity is lost suddenly it become a million times worst and everything changes blah blah blah

You should actually understand what you're talking about, you know.

Obama has NEVER invaded another country. That's just factually wrong.

Drone 'victims' are identified by the American intelligence community as posing a threat to national security. The US was attacked in 9/11, and thus, have the right to self-defence according to international law. Drone strikes are a completely measured mean to go by that. And drone strikes are accepted (and even encouraged) by the countries in which they occur - Pakistan, Yemen, et cetera.

Obama killed a million people through starvation? o_O

history. otherwise i could be overreacting... i mean okay Osama bin laden as an example maybe this crime is no way near in equal magnitude or effect however this whole war on terror came out because of him and many millions more died for the greater good of democracy. i mean even before 9/11 America wanted to invade Iraq but had no excuse and what happened to the weapons of mass destruction did not exist now why did America invade Iraq beats me i mean yeah fuck  Saddam Hussein but that not the greatest reason maybe it had to do with him selling oil in euros which could damage the American petrol dollar idk. i mean i try to keep conspiracy out of all my conversation

America will invade Saudi Arabia?

Oh boy. This just got hilarious. Saudi Arabia is one of the US' biggest allies out there. Ranks with the UK, Japan, South Korea, Israel et cetera. The Iraq War was launched from Saudi Arabia. There were American military bases there.

The Iraq War was incredibly stupid, yes. But it had nothing to do with oil, rather with deposing someone Bush didn't like.

[ShortBlackChick]

I dont actually believe it was an attack by outside forces like Al-Qaeda and the like. I actually believe it was an attact, similar to Oklahoma, by American Radicals, a home-grown terrorist if you will. A terrorist organisation would have claimed responsibility by now and also the US's intelligence network is pretty effective, they would have known if it was a foreign terrorist group involved beforehand like they did with 9/11. I reakon this is just a group of extremists, very much home grown, based on how crude the bomb was and the placing of it at such an significant event and on a significant day in American History.

Would have been incredibly sad if the parents there from the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary Shootings in December last year were injured  in the attack seeing they were there to honor their kids who had passed away.

LOL at this: http://www.theage.com.au/national/alan-jones-suggests-leftwing-radical-students-link-to-boston-bombing-20130417-2hz8y.html
Yes a Saudi student who was injured was questioned, but one of the fatalities has been named as a Chinese student. Which essentially means nothing.

Also:

[chasej]

LOL at this: http://www.theage.com.au/national/alan-jones-suggests-leftwing-radical-students-link-to-boston-bombing-20130417-2hz8y.html
Yes a Saudi student who was injured was questioned, but one of the fatalities has been named as a Chinese student. Which essentially means nothing.

Also:

I don't understand why Alan jones is still given air time in the media, he is an ignorant, bigoted, racist and all round stupid man.

Also I've heard that the Saudi student was questioned as a witness to the attack and not as a suspect. The media probably just focuses on any people of middle eastern background involved in the investigation for obvious reasons.

Hopefully we get some answers soon, latest reports say there are no suspects as of yet but the bombs were very crudely made so that gives some weight to the theory that it was radicilists from inside the US and not an organised terrorist organisation. The attack was on a public holiday called "patriots day". No idea what the holiday is about but it's possible it has something to do with that day, really not sure though.

[Dayman]

You should actually understand what you're talking about, you know.

Obama has NEVER invaded another country. That's just factually wrong.

Drone 'victims' are identified by the American intelligence community as posing a threat to national security. The US was attacked in 9/11, and thus, have the right to self-defence according to international law. Drone strikes are a completely measured mean to go by that. And drone strikes are accepted (and even encouraged) by the countries in which they occur - Pakistan, Yemen, et cetera.

Obama killed a million people through starvation? o_O
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America will invade Saudi Arabia?

Oh boy. This just got hilarious. Saudi Arabia is one of the US' biggest allies out there. Ranks with the UK, Japan, South Korea, Israel et cetera. The Iraq War was launched from Saudi Arabia. There were American military bases there.

The Iraq War was incredibly stupid, yes. But it had nothing to do with oil, rather with deposing someone Bush didn't like.

A simple google search and maybe a bit of common sense lead me to this
 "Bush bombed Iraq and Afghanistan during his presidency.

Obama bombed Irag, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya during his so far, 4 years in.

Who is the true war monger?" That's not the matter it's that America was involved that is.


Secondly, I know there is absolutely no way America will invade Saudi Arabia because of their double standards and hypocrisy I mean they'll invade Libya but not saudiarabia the only difference is ones an ally that will agree to every demand America project.  hey you know what read this article it's very interesting http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/libyan-war-gaddafi-falls-but-why-did-we.html this article pretty much explains all the reasons why I say all this stuff because so many wars happened because of false flags. Anyway my friend is going to link a video showing me the person who actually commited the act[he claims anyways].

[chasej]

A simple google search and maybe a bit of common sense lead me to this
 "Bush bombed Iraq and Afghanistan during his presidency.

Obama bombed Irag, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya during his so far, 4 years in.

Who is the true war monger?" That's not the matter it's that America was involved that is.


Secondly, I know there is absolutely no way America will invade Saudi Arabia because of their double standards and hypocrisy I mean they'll invade Libya but not saudiarabia the only difference is ones an ally that will agree to every demand America project.  hey you know what read this article it's very interesting http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/libyan-war-gaddafi-falls-but-why-did-we.html this article pretty much explains all the reasons why I say all this stuff because so many wars happened because of false flags. Anyway my friend is going to link a video showing me the person who actually commited the act[he claims anyways].

Just stop. For your own good, you just look sooooo stupid.

[Dayman]

Just stop. For your own good, you just look sooooo stupid.

Okay I will stop but  before I leave this conversation I will ask you these following question what was Americas interest in the Middle East these past few years eg in the 21st century? Syria was one of the most sectarian Arab countries so why is America and the media helping these 'rebel fighters' which are found to be linked to AL-Qaeda?


Okay you know what nothing we will say to each other will change anything I know in my heart America aren't changing anything in the middleast and they don't care about the people they had there own interest. I mean fuck why did they go against qadaffi I mean search up on google Qaddafi was a good man and look at his policies .... Now look at Libya it's a piece of shit I mean they even burnt the US embassy what the fuck?

[Thu Thu Train]

Heres a list of what we know so far.

• There were multiple bombs contained in pressure cookers in backpacks
• It was a terrorist attack

That is all. This isn't about the middle east or whatever the fuck you morons up above me are talking about. This is about the recent terrorist attack at the 117th Boston Marathon.

[ninwa]

Just stop. For your own good, you just look sooooo stupid.

cut this shit out. tell him/her why s/he "look(s) sooooo stupid" or shut up.

[Professor Polonsky]

A simple google search and maybe a bit of common sense lead me to this
 "Bush bombed Iraq and Afghanistan during his presidency.

Obama bombed Irag, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya during his so far, 4 years in.

Who is the true war monger?" That's not the matter it's that America was involved that is.


Secondly, I know there is absolutely no way America will invade Saudi Arabia because of their double standards and hypocrisy I mean they'll invade Libya but not saudiarabia the only difference is ones an ally that will agree to every demand America project.  hey you know what read this article it's very interesting http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/libyan-war-gaddafi-falls-but-why-did-we.html this article pretty much explains all the reasons why I say all this stuff because so many wars happened because of false flags. Anyway my friend is going to link a video showing me the person who actually commited the act[he claims anyways].

Bush invaded Iraq, while Obama has pulled out of Iraq as soon as was practicable and ended the war. Afghanistan was a just and right war which wasn't being fought aggressively enough by Bush. He had no more than 20000 troops in Afghanistan for most of his Presidency, while he never had less than 100000 in Iraq.

Libya was alright. American excursions in Pakistan are consented to by the Pakistani government. You should really know the difference between an invasion and bombing, though...

Double standards? It's a double standard not to invade your allies? Oooookay. And that blog post about Afghanistan is just lie after lie after lie. Let's go through it.

Libya is about oil? What? War causes instability. If you want prices to go down, you don't want that. This is almost as dumb as saying that Iraq was about oil.

I actually lol'd at that bit about Lady Symons. If you think a Baronness can drag NATO in its entirety to a campaign... Hahahahah.

Afterwards there's a lot of the same shit, repeating the theory with gold, and what not. Americans actually supported the intervention in Libya. Arab States urged and heavily lobbied for UNSCR 1973, and some participated in the campaign itself. Then the funniest thing in this article appeared.

Obama is … aiding the Libyan “rebels”, even though there are allegations that 1,000 of them are Al Qaeda radicals (and there are some indications that their leader is a CIA asset).

They are Al-Qaeda radicals

Oh wait they're CIA

And then some Bush-era crazies saying they wanted to topple the entire Mid-East being used as evidence

And now apparently the reason for the intervention is that Arab States somehow are challenging the American economy. lol.

You wanna know why NATO et al intervened in Libya? Sure. A humanitarian crisis coupled with a chance to remove a regime which is hostile to Western interests. But how do we know the former is the controlling reason? Cause otherwise China or Russia would've vetoed 1973. Anything that helps The West harms China/Russia. It's a zero-sum game.

[MJRomeo81]

Heres a list of what we know so far.

• There were multiple bombs contained in pressure cookers in backpacks
• It was a terrorist attack

That is all. This isn't about the middle east or whatever the fuck you morons up above me are talking about. This is about the recent terrorist attack at the 117th Boston Marathon.

I'd like to start off by saying my heart goes out to the people who were affected by these attacks. However the media commentary on this terrible story has been appalling imo. Is 24 hour news coverage needed? These attacks are frequent events inside the conflict zones of the middle east.  #prayforboston? how about #prayforSyria? How about #prayforpoliticalreform in Somalia?

>Bomb attack in Iraq on same day of Boston marathon bombings, killing over 30 people.
>no fucks are given

AGAIN, I mean to make no insult on those affected by the attacks, and if you are one person affected by the attacks and find this post as a direct attack at the memory at one lost, I do apologize for the misconception.

"Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror," Obama said.

So when US drones kill 50 civilians for every terrorist, is that an act of terror?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-tap-drone-attacks-killing-49-people-known-terrorist-Pakistan.html

[Thu Thu Train]

>Bomb attack in Iraq on same day of Boston marathon bombings, killing over 30 people.
>no fucks are given

Fucks are given though. One human life does not out weigh another but you need to remember that stuff like what happened in Iraq stuff that's been happening in Syria and even Somalia it's been happening for years pretty much. Syria got massive coverage at the start of the conflict and so did the Iraq war now you only hear about when it's going to end or if the US should intervene in Syria etc etc. The media no longer cares about stuff like this because the general public are used to it. They report: "A suicide bomber murdered 10 people in a market outside Baghdad today" and the general public goes: So what? The same thing happened last week.

Bombs are a rare occurrence inside a first world, generally "safe" country such as the United States of America so of course it's going to be a big deal. "Who would do this?" "Why did this happen?". A lot of that is coming from U.S. citizens and the same thing happens in Iraq about their own tragedies.

Here are a list of conflicts you rarely hear about on the news:

• Syria
• Somalia
• The Civil war in The Congo
• Northern Mali
• Mexican Drug War
• Plenty more

There are plenty of wars going on right now but you don't hear about them on the news because they happen in countries where things like this are EXPECTED to happen. Yes it's disgusting that it's expected to happen but you can't say "No one cares" just because they spend 30 seconds on the news saying "Oh another bomb went off in Iraq". At least it got reported.


P.S. If you're going to cite a source find a better one than the daily mail it's a sensationalist tabloid.

[Professor Polonsky]

I'd like to start off by saying my heart goes out to the people who were affected by these attacks. However the media commentary on this terrible story has been appalling imo. Is 24 hour news coverage needed? These attacks are frequent events inside the conflict zones of the middle east.  #prayforboston? how about #prayforSyria? How about #prayforpoliticalreform in Somalia?

>Bomb attack in Iraq on same day of Boston marathon bombings, killing over 30 people.
>no fucks are given

Preferential treatment of like and allies. If a bomb exploded in Melbourne, of course you'd care about it. Proximity - both cultural and geographical - is directly correlated with how much you care about the event. Also as was stated above, a bomb exploding in Boston is naturally far more distinct than a bomb exploding in Tikrit or Hamah.

So when US drones kill 50 civilians for every terrorist, is that an act of terror?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-tap-drone-attacks-killing-49-people-known-terrorist-Pakistan.html

Key word: Target. Drones have a direct military objective. A bomb in a civilian area does not. It's unfortunate when civilians die, but collateral is justifiable. Especially when the the alternative is so much worse. Also Daily Mail lol.