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Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« on: July 20, 2013, 06:46:26 pm »
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Lurch to the right, desperate grab for votes and a complete disregard to the rights of refugees, or a pragmatic solution for a difficult situation, that provides a balance between border protection from economic migration but doesn't forget the refugees?
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 08:09:19 pm »
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Won't be implemented.

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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 11:43:10 pm »
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In related but unrelated news, the processing centre in Nauru has been burnt down by riots. :(

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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 11:46:23 pm »
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In related but unrelated news, the processing centre in Nauru has been burnt down by riots. :(

Sixty million bucks in damage too they reckon. Needless to say that's a pretty bloody impressive riot!
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 12:48:43 am »
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In related but unrelated news, the processing centre in Nauru has been burnt down by riots. :(

Fucking idiots. Now everyone involved is going to have their asylum applications rejected and instead of being brought to the Australian mainland like they'd (probably) hoped they have to sleep in tents and worse conditions than they were probably in before. No sympathy for these people. I bet anyone who was against letting asylum seekers in is definitely going to side with them now.

Edit: Before I get labelled as a racist or someone who hates asylum seekers: I definitely feel sympathy for the ones who are peaceful in their protests I don't think they should be locked up in detention centres but if you start destroying property and causing millions of dollars in damage you're a criminal and you don't belong in this society.
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 12:53:18 am »
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Fucking idiots. Now everyone involved is going to have their asylum applications rejected and instead of being brought to the Australian mainland like they'd (probably) hoped they have to sleep in tents and worse conditions than they were probably in before. No sympathy for these people. I bet anyone who was against letting asylum seekers in is definitely going to side with them now.

I particularly loved the media backtracking on this one. Yesterday they made out as though they had striked (struck maybe?) because of the new changes to the asylum seeker policy. Not only was the policy not relevant to the rioters, the riot also took place hours before Rudd's announcement. It was a little too farfetched for channel nine to suggest that the Nauru rioters had seen the future and launched a riot about a policy that doesn't affect them...
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2013, 01:03:01 am »
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Yeah the way multiple sources were reporting it made it sound like it was a result of KRudds announcement (which it obviously wasn't)

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 01:10:09 am »
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Yeah the way multiple sources were reporting it made it sound like it was a result of KRudds announcement (which it obviously wasn't)

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News limited is my favourite one. Just a barrage of articles about how Rudd's asylum seeker policy isn't working and blah blah. Then all about Tony Abbott's alternative and a constant stream of his comments. Then today's headline "RUDD'S HUGE STEP TO THE RIGHT CAUSES A STIR". Really guys? Make up your minds!

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2013, 01:24:33 am »
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Fucking idiots. Now everyone involved is going to have their asylum applications rejected and instead of being brought to the Australian mainland like they'd (probably) hoped they have to sleep in tents and worse conditions than they were probably in before. No sympathy for these people. I bet anyone who was against letting asylum seekers in is definitely going to side with them now.

Edit: Before I get labelled as a racist or someone who hates asylum seekers: I definitely feel sympathy for the ones who are peaceful in their protests I don't think they should be locked up in detention centres but if you start destroying property and causing millions of dollars in damage you're a criminal and you don't belong in this society.

Bullshit. If I was treated like a second class citizen for so long, I'd riot too. Solidarity to my brothers on Nauru.

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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2013, 01:53:00 am »
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Bullshit. If I was treated like a second class citizen for so long, I'd riot too. Solidarity to my brothers on Nauru.
If they were being treated worse on Nauru then they were in their home countries then I can understand why they'd riot. But they weren't exactly being treated like king of kings in their home countries either.
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2013, 01:55:55 am »
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Bullshit. If I was treated like a second class citizen for so long, I'd riot too. Solidarity to my brothers on Nauru.

The news made a very clear point in stating that they were Iranian asylum seekers. The intent there I think was to bring back Bob Carr's words "there are no refugees, these are just economic migrants from Iran that we are seeing making it to our shores". Naturally, it's a moronic statement, however, Iran is not a particularly big source of refugees. In reality, it actually takes one of the biggest number of refugees in the world.

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2013, 02:01:12 am »
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If they were being treated worse on Nauru then they were in their home countries then I can understand why they'd riot. But they weren't exactly being treated like king of kings in their home countries either.

Doesn't matter. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and as a first-class citizen. Anything less is unacceptable.

Yeh t-rav that seems real likely, men and women (and children no less) getting on a shonky boat to risk their lives for a dollar.

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2013, 02:08:08 am »
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Yeh t-rav that seems real likely, men and women (and children no less) getting on a shonky boat to risk their lives for a dollar.

People have certainly done crazier things for money I daresay. It's a hugely difficult situation though. On the one hand, as much as I hate to quote Tone, we do have to "stop the boats". It isn't a particularly safe passage into this country and there are certain parties that do exploit it. Having said that though, we have a responsibility to accept refugees. Both legally and as humans.
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2013, 03:08:31 am »
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Won't be implemented.

It'll be implemented on the next boat that arrives.

Quote from: http://www.ministerhomeaffairs.gov.au/Mediareleases/Pages/2013/Third%20Quarter/20-July-2013----Border-Protection-Command-assists-vessel.aspx
People arriving by boat without a visa after 19 July 2013 will be subject to the regional agreement with Papua New Guinea and won’t be settled in Australia.
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Re: Rudd Assylum Seeker Policy
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2013, 11:23:37 am »
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Okay; it will be temporarily implemented but won't be around long term.