Differences between bachelor of biomed and bachelor of science?

[816]

That is just one sample 'set'.

Pretty simple question to answer, to Biomedicine students, do you notice a 'spike' in your grades when comparing biomedicine and non-biomedicine subjects?

[thushan]

LOL yeah you're pretty close to the top mate Thanks for making noobs like me feel bad

:/ I didn't mean that. Sure, I'm above average, but I'm not in the top 1% or anything.

[abeybaby]

Pretty simple question to answer, to Biomedicine students, do you notice a 'spike' in your grades when comparing biomedicine and non-biomedicine subjects?

Hell yes. hopefully that suffices

[816]

Hell yes. hopefully that suffices

Lol c'mon, I've just been going through the grades in the semester 1 results thread and the subject reviews and rating. There is no serious discrepancy between the two.

You all complain about 'Chem for Biomedicine' and yet like 5 people 85+'ed that. Maths subjects, however, seem to be far harder.

[vox nihili]

You all complain about 'Chem for Biomedicine' and yet like 5 people 85+'ed that. Maths subjects, however, seem to be far harder.

It's probably reasonable to suggest though that Biomed is a stronger cohort. That and the people who frequent ATAR notes are not a good example of the status quo.

[abeybaby]

the 1st year subjects like chem for biomed, physics for biomed etc are all basically repeats of year 12. theyre not the subjects im talking about. im talking about 2nd and 3rd year core subjects. also note that very few people would be willing to post their marks if they werent good, especially if youre in a course that has some kind of prestige attached.

[thushan]

Amen.

[golden]

Amen.

LOL if that was in reference to my post, apologies for deleting it (before I realised that you posted), I thought it was off-topic. APOLOGIES X 9001.
It was asking about how pi was a noob.

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Thanks for making noobs like me feel bad

[Shenz0r]

The first year core subjects aren't amazingly difficult. For our cohort, lots of people (by lots I think maybe half of the cohort or more) seem to have gotten H1 in Biomolecules, 39% got H1 for Maths, EDDA has 120 marks but is only calculated out of 100 marks (so you have a 20 mark buffer for 100%), and I'd say a decent number would've gotten a H1 in Chemistry too. First year cores are not that bad.

It's the 2nd/3rd year cores that a lot of people seem to struggle with though

[vox nihili]

The first year core subjects aren't amazingly difficult.

Ahhh don't say that!

[Hancock]

When 39% of people are getting H1s, I figured that the faculty would've moderated the marks.

[simpak]

Who mentioned me!  I'd say it's not a good reader of stuff in general because Stonecold is smarter than me!!!  So if his subject were harder then he would get around the same mark as me because it's harder but I am dumber and my subject would be easier --> same mark.  I have always considered Stonecold and I to be equals in terms of the similar coursework we do (intelligent, no, I am much less equipped).  I'm sure he would consider us to be the same.  The third year Biomedicine students I know have issues with their course but those issues don't really come down to how 'hard' they feel equivalent subjects are.  Sometimes they feel their weird Biomed only subjects eg M2M are hard on them, but you can't compare that to Science.  It's like comparing apples and oranges.  There is no equivalent.  To flesh out the sample set, Stonecold and I both got 96 in those BIOM200whatever/MIIM200whatever subjects and 96 in Immunology.  However, my inability to finish exams in time saw us separated on Bacteriology which is the other continuation of that subject

I literally feel like cracking out the popcorn right about now.

NB: I HAVE BEEN DRINKING.  And I say THIS DEBATE IS NEVER GOING TO END.  It doesn't matter how many times people try to have this debate and how long it's argued, it's always going to exist and nobody is going to agree.  It mostly just exists because people in Biomedicine somehow believe having a double subject worth 25 points which is pretty much just like doing two separate subjects but in one thing which is worth more and therefore you take 3 subjects is 'harder' than doing the two subject separately.  No dice, it's really not.  The thing is, you're studying Biology.  And a large part of Biology is rote learning.  For a single subject you probably have like 1 hour lectures.  In that 1 hour, your lecturer will cover (by and large) the same amount of content between subjects in the one year level.  Just because the content may differ (slightly) or you have a more integrated subject (isn't this why you were doing Biomedicine in the first place?) doesn't mean that it's harder at all.  You still have to rote learn just as much crap.  If you find rote learning more difficult than I do then that's your problem but it doesn't mean your subject in general is more difficult.  Just means you're worse at the detail aspects.  You are given x amount of things to memorise, memorise x amount of things --> same amount profit no matter what things are.

I'm not going to bother quoting stuff because DRINKS.  Wrt people getting 98 ATARs failing, what even are you trying to say?  You need a 98 ATAR to get into the course.  Plenty of people fail Science subjects too.  More people fail Science subjects because more people are enrolled in Science.  Like, statistically, someone is going to fail for one reason or another.  No matter how 'smart' they are meant to be.  Who cares what your ATAR is?

Wrt mathematics, Science students find Calculus shit just as hard as Biomed students find Calculus shit.  That's why I never took it and one of the reasons I didn't choose Biomed was the maths component.  If you're going to choose a course stop complaining about how hard you find it.  You are not some crazy deity because you pretty much take like, an offshoot of my degree with some slight specialisations.  We are equals, it is possible for Science and Biomedicine students to coexist when Biomedicine students don't insist on acting as if they are 'superior'.  And before people get pissy at me over that comment, note that I don't think that most Biomedicine students think in this way at all.  Most of the ones I plan on associating with anyway.  Just some of them, and they tend to be the ones that have the most opinions in these debates.

What do you mean by spike in your grades?

I study.  A lot.  In fact I usually take about 30 minutes break a day.  Today was a one off because I accidentally forgot my iPad at home and --> could not study on the train.  If you're going to sit there and tell me my course is 'easy', well then okay, but I'm going to tell you otherwise.  I wouldn't work as hard as I do if I didn't feel challenged.  Getting a mark above 90 is about detail, not concepts and not understanding when you take a major like mine or any other Biologically oriented major for the most part.  Memorising that detail will be the same whether you do Biomed or Science.  Furthermore, since most of you try to get into Medicine, where it actually counts most towards your GPA you are literally in a cohort with Science students.  So, apparently, you should see that as an advantage because those Science students are terribly underprepared what with their easy foundation subjects leading up to their major?  You should be laughing.

We all have shit to do.  Get it done and stop complaining.

[816]

When 39% of people are getting H1s, I figured that the faculty would've moderated the marks.

40% of students getting H1 is a disgrace. They should make the subject harder IMO.

[thushan]

I study.  A lot.  In fact I usually take about 30 minutes break a day.  Today was a one off because I accidentally forgot my iPad at home and --> could not study on the train.  If you're going to sit there and tell me my course is 'easy', well then okay, but I'm going to tell you otherwise.  I wouldn't work as hard as I do if I didn't feel challenged.  Getting a mark above 90 is about detail, not concepts and not understanding when you take a major like mine or any other Biologically oriented major for the most part.  Memorising that detail will be the same whether you do Biomed or Science.  Furthermore, since most of you try to get into Medicine, where it actually counts most towards your GPA you are literally in a cohort with Science students.  So, apparently, you should see that as an advantage because those Science students are terribly underprepared what with their easy foundation subjects leading up to their major?  You should be laughing.

We all have shit to do.  Get it done and stop complaining.

Woah. Dude. That's inspiration. Off to the books now.

[simpak]

Haha thushan you and me both.  However, here we watching me being like I STUDY CONSTANTLY but simultaneously being drunk on a Wednesday night.  IT JUST ISN'T ADDING UP HERE.