Differences between bachelor of biomed and bachelor of science?

[816]

Well well well, was speaking to a girl I know and  she supplied me with this:

2013 Mollecular and Ceullar Biomedicine results:

H1 21.0%
H2A 9.8%
H2B 13.5%
H3 11.1%
P 31.7%
N 11.6%

11.6% fail rate is pretty small. Not sure what the fail rate for eng comp/eng mech/FoEN/EngMATH but when I did it, I'd say it was a lot higher for 11.6% in all of them.

21.0% is a very high H1 rate as well. You don't get that in Real Analysis that's for sure.

[simpak]

Yeah like no matter what in general when you look at split of marks like that for either Biomed or Sci most of the time >20% of students got a H1.

[pi]

I don't have much to add to your academic prowess simpak (I've posted about that already), but kudos for typing such a coherent (and lenghty) post whilst drunk!

[golden]

Well well well, was speaking to a girl I know and  she supplied me with this:

2013 Mollecular and Ceullar Biomedicine results:

H1 21.0%
H2A 9.8%
H2B 13.5%
H3 11.1%
P 31.7%
N 11.6%

11.6% fail rate is pretty small. Not sure what the fail rate for eng comp/eng mech/FoEN/EngMATH but when I did it, I'd say it was a lot higher for 11.6% in all of them.

21.0% is a very high H1 rate as well. You don't get that in Real Analysis that's for sure.

Failing this subject has the consequences that you may not be able to continue the course if I am not mistaken. If you are at risk of failing, there are usually fall back mechanisms. Hence the spike in the P if I am not mistaken.

[Starlight]

Well well well, was speaking to a girl I know and  she supplied me with this:

2013 Mollecular and Ceullar Biomedicine results:

H1 21.0%
H2A 9.8%
H2B 13.5%
H3 11.1%
P 31.7%
N 11.6%

11.6% fail rate is pretty small. Not sure what the fail rate for eng comp/eng mech/FoEN/EngMATH but when I did it, I'd say it was a lot higher for 11.6% in all of them.

21.0% is a very high H1 rate as well. You don't get that in Real Analysis that's for sure.

If people work their arses off in a particular subject I don't see why having a high rate of H1s is a bad thing. Subjects are marked differently, e.g. in arts subjects it tends to be harder to get a H1 because of the bell curve system. Perhaps there is a similar system going on in math-based subjects causing many students to get average scores of 50-60s. Also those science/ biomed type subjects people are probably getting a whole lot of background into those subjects in their first year. Similarly for first year subjects of science, e.g. chemistry 1 is an extension of vce chem or you are more than capable of doing well unibiology if you are familar with bio of vce.

[816]

Failing this subject has the consequences that you may not be able to continue the course if I am not mistaken. If you are at risk of failing, there are usually fall back mechanisms. Hence the spike in the P if I am not mistaken.

That is pretty much every subject at any university, lol.

There is no bell-curve in maths subjects, I've had that confirmed, they're just insanely hard.

[alondouek]

I study.  A lot.  In fact I usually take about 30 minutes break a day.

I'm a big advocate of taking significant breaks from study to do other things. Out of interest, simpak, how well do you feel you cope with so little time away from study? Is it just a routine you've gotten used to over time?

[Starlight]

That is pretty much every subject at any university, lol.

There is no bell-curve in maths subjects, I've had that confirmed, they're just insanely hard.

There is also heavier weighting for the exam. Math subjects are always going to be harder because it can seem like a question is unfamilar even if you know the basics.

[Stick]

Absolutely get in contact with them! Better to hear any information from the actual institution than anyone else

I've just sent them an email. I'll make sure I inform you guys of the response once I receive it.

[simpak]

I don't have much to add to your academic prowess simpak (I've posted about that already), but kudos for typing such a coherent (and lenghty) post whilst drunk!

DRUNK would be an overstatement, partially intoxicated yes.  I'm reading some letters now.  LETTERS TO NATURE THAT IS.

Extending what El said though, I think one reason Biomed students have such a moan and cry over their second year cores is that they're no longer able to draw from the 'prior VCE knowledge' bag.  So it seems a step up from their first year subjects and more pressure.  Tough titties, I don't recall learning about primary ossification or the detailed control of kidney homeostasis in VCE either.

[abeybaby]

if 11.6% is a normal fail rate, then ok. it still seems high to me.

[simpak]

I'm a big advocate of taking significant breaks from study to do other things. Out of interest, simpak, how well do you feel you cope with so little time away from study? Is it just a routine you've gotten used to over time?

It is a balance between not wanting to burn yourself out v. worrying about how you would feel if you didn't try your hardest and ended up with a mark you were disappointed in.  Fear wins over common sense every time.

[816]

if 11.6% is a normal fail rate, then ok. it still seems high to me.

Fail rate for first year engineering subject (ESD2) was around about 30% when I did it.

Eng Mechanics was around 40% when I did it.

[golden]

 

That is pretty much every subject at any university, lol.

So are you saying that if you fail a course in any subject in every university you won't be able to continue your course?

[simpak]

golden nobody kicks you out of Biomedicine if you fail a subject you just get held back.  And in answer to your question, I have several friends that have failed subjects at a variety of universities (Melbourne, Monash, Latrobe) and all of them have seen their course extended in some way.  I think that's what 816 was trying to say

Chemistry 2 definitely has a high fail rate.  I know a girl who has failed it twice and potentially thrice!