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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2013, 07:00:31 pm »
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91% Greens
69% ALP
33% L/NP
This happens a lot. I always seem to get left wing + socially liberal.

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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2013, 07:09:23 pm »
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60% Greens
60% Coalition
58% ALP
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2013, 07:23:40 pm »
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75% Greens
73% ALP
48% L/NP

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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2013, 07:25:07 pm »
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78% Greens
69% ALP
38% Coalition
Unweighted and Weighted Charts.
   

Not really any surprises there :P
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2013, 08:01:41 pm »
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ALP: 61%
Green: 61%
LNP: 49%

Another good test is http://politicalcompass.org/ I've done this one three years in a row and received exactly the same score for economics at least (out of about 10,000 potential scores). That doesn't really say anything for the test, but I thought it was pretty cool haha
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2013, 08:02:21 pm »
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I'm going to vote for the first time...even though I have a conservative background and the right wing seems familiar, I'm going with the left wing...and also my name is Alperen, so ALP reminds me of my name :)
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2013, 10:01:58 pm »
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the votecompass thing jammed -_- and i still have 2 more years till I can vote. Though on the  other test I came up near Mandella and Ghandi...
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2013, 08:19:18 am »
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Unweighted                                                                                                                             Weighted


ALP        58%/ 62%
Green   54% / 60%
LNP      50% / 49%

Which is strange because right now i'm probably going to vote for the greens. I think it might be because i answered close to neutral for many questions and not strongly agree or disagree. If i took it again tomorrow it'd probably be different. I wouldn't put too much stock in it haha.

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Another good test is http://politicalcompass.org/ I've done this one three years in a row and received exactly the same score for economics at least (out of about 10,000 potential scores). That doesn't really say anything for the test, but I thought it was pretty cool haha

The quiz isn't bad but their analysis is waaay off. Apparently the liberals are more right wing than Mitt Romney and the republican party which is just bullshit. The liberals are really centre-right to right at best, the republicans are lunar right. Honestly, i don't think the liberals are worse than republicans and are lunar right extremists and that Labor is a right wing party with greens being barely left.

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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2013, 09:27:10 am »
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A taste of some of the non-biased media coverage we'll get over the next month...
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 09:56:43 am »
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It is pretty bad but i also think its good in some way that there's no secret who they support. Everyone will probably have biases and at least they're laying it out on the table.

Keep in mind that is from NSW as well. We're largely isolated from it and i know very little about it but state Labor there was incredibly corrupt, alongside something about Eddie Obeid (which i have no idea about).

Theres a fair share of anti-labor/Kev bias out there, especially in the mainstream media (owned by murdoch who also makes no secret of what he wants) but the anti-liberal/Tony Abbott bias is out there too. No one really has clean hands in this situation haha.

I saw a thread somewhere (not here though) awhile back where people listed their top 5 issues. I think in this election there are some thing people care deeply about (say Asylum seekers) that other people do not give a single toss about. What's everyone's top 5?

I found this list on ABC and added a few:
  • Asylum Seekers
  • Broadband
  • Childcare
  • Climate Change/Renewable Energy
  • Defence
  • Drug Law
  • Economy
  • Education
  • Food Security
  • Gambling
  • Health & Hospitals
  • Manufacturing
  • Mining
  • NBN (national broadband network)
  • NDIS
  • Population growth/immigration
  • Republicanism
  • Social issues
  • Taxes
  • Transport
  • Trust
  • Workplace relations

I'll type up mine a bit later but theres plenty of other things out there too, here are some green policies for more ideas. Liberal & labor would probably give ideas too.
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2013, 01:37:04 pm »
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A taste of some of the non-biased media coverage we'll get over the next month...

I agree that it's much nicer when it's blatantly biased. At least we can deal with that! Unlike sites like news.com, that are amazingly selective with what they choose to report.
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2013, 03:18:34 pm »
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I did that Vote Compass and ended up with (can't remmeber percentages) from greatest to lowest:

LNP
ALP
Greens

I am apparently a right-wing liberal.
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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2013, 04:35:14 pm »
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What's everyone's top 5?

I found this list on ABC and added a few:
  • Asylum Seekers
  • Broadband
  • Childcare
  • Climate Change/Renewable Energy
  • Defence
  • Drug Law
  • Economy
  • Education
  • Food Security
  • Gambling
  • Health & Hospitals
  • Manufacturing
  • Mining
  • NBN (national broadband network)
  • NDIS
  • Population growth/immigration
  • Republicanism
  • Social issues
  • Taxes
  • Transport
  • Trust
  • Workplace relations

I'll type up mine a bit later but theres plenty of other things out there too, here are some green policies for more ideas. Liberal & labor would probably give ideas too.

At this stage of my life, probably:
1. Economy
2. Health & Hospitals
3. Education
4. Social Issues
5. Defence

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Re: Australian 2013 Federal Election Megathread
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2013, 06:00:13 pm »
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It's a bit hard to work out what are my top things, i know what i don’t care about all that much about though. This is what procrastination does to me, only got 3 so far....

I guess mine would be these:

1. The economy/Taxes
As Bill Clinton said, "It's the economy, stupid". I realise it's boring as shit and people’s eyes glaze over at the mention of it. Managing the economy is one of the prime functions of government; I’m more interested in how they handle spending rather than social or moral policy. If we don't have money, any other policy talk is useless.

Closing loopholes is important, some are gone, plenty left.

I really believe we need a mining tax with balls . Right now, it only covers a few minerals and  has so many loopholes that companies are paying none of it. It's ridiculous, minerals can only be dug up once. These companies’ shareholders are 80% foreign. We shouldn't serve them, they should be generating a gain for the Australian public. It needs to cover more minerals with fewer loopholes. Many nations have nationalised their oil resources, the country owns them, sells them, and gets 100% of the profit. Historically, for oil, taxes on foreign companies were huge - 50% or more. That’s the smart thing to do considering we can only use them once.

Obviously, Labor did a good job of staving off the recession but we still need to keep watch and stimulate the economy as needed. The loophole that allows the rich  to put their income into super at a much lower tax rate needs to be fixed too. They're essentially legally avoiding tax in my view.

2. Healthcare
I think everyone agrees the system is far from optimal. A lot of GP's and other doctors charge above the scheduled price. Mine charges $70 for a 15-minute visit, up front. The official Medicare fee is $35, so, we get $35 back, the rest is out of pocket. Obviously, we *don't* have to see him but Medicare was designed as free, universal health care. In many situations, it's no longer that. We need to fund Medicare better and raise the scheduled so there are less out of pocket costs.

Dental care is another big one. Many dentists are rolling in the cash due to it being 99% private. They can charge what they like. You can get Medicare treatment for every part of your body but your teeth? That's ridiculous. Significantly increasing the number of public dentists will fix these things.

And from my own academic interests: We need better mental health systems since it can really impact someone’s quality of life (and reduce productivity, harming the economy). It needs to be more affordable. We've made massive strides with things like headspace, which is awesome, but it needs to be better. Any medication at most will cost you $35.70 (around there). It used be a few bucks. It's getting more and more expensive, people are taking more and more. That needs to be looked at as well. 

3. Drugs & Gambling
No surprise given my major. We need to take a long hard look at our drug policy.

Alcohol causes massive social harm, not to mention health costs. We need to take steps to fix this. The tax needs to be fixed too. It's based on the wholesale price and the type of drink rather than its alcoholic content. Take Wipeout, it's a cheap knockoff of Malibu. It's very alcoholic for its price because it's "wine based". If it were made with vodka, even at the same alcohol level, it would cost much more. Students joke about goon but there are people out there who buy 4L daily. I know people who work in bottle shops and they tell me it’s just plain depressing. You can get 5L of wine, about 40 standard drinks, for 15 bucks. It's ridiculous. We need an alcohol tax based purely on alcohol content and possibly some protection for Australian wine growers retained(without making goon shockingly cheap).

We need to work on harm reduction projects for drugs. Putting dealers in jail and intercepting shipments work by choking the supply of drugs, i believe they do work to a degree. The best way to reduce consumption is not to cut supply but cut demand. I've noticed even within my major there are so many young people out there who have no idea how harmful some of these things are and treat it as a joke until they wind up in hospital. We need to ban all those "legal highs" as well, stuff like "spice" or "K2". Most of them are untested research chemicals. We have no idea what’s in them or what they do to a person. I've heard anecdotally they really mess you up. They're way worse than weed they try to replace. It sends a false message that they're safe since they're for sale legally. They're sold (mostly) in sex shops, they’re not at all qualified to be selling substances like that (this is why the sex party is against banning them too, they want their money). [Bonus Vid]

Gambling is another one for me, in particular, pokies at local clubs. The rules and enforcement are more lax than casinos. I'd wager there are a more addicts at these small clubs as well. Even in my area, which is low-medium SES, one of the hotels makes ~10 million. This is just a local pub with pokies, all money people have lost. We need pre-commitment and limits on each spin, say a buck or two. Given that machines have x spins an hour (which should be limited so they’re not insanely fast), limiting the amount bet per spin obviously limits how fast gamblers can bleed money. Tom waterhouse should not be on an expert panel either... get all that shit out of the media.
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