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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2009, 12:44:34 pm »
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For us, if you were good at the first half of maths in year 7, you went on to do year 8 maths in the second half.

If they introduce accelerated maths too early isn't there risk that those who develop a bit later will miss out and fall further behind?

Our school did that but to cater for what /0 has said, at the end of each year/semester, performance was re-assessed and those who were accerlated who weren't coping were dropped back down and those whoo were shining in normal maths were offered the chance to accerlate.

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2009, 01:36:00 pm »
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At my school, in year 8 there are two "streams" for maths, seperating the upper half of the year level and the lower half, each comprising about 100 people.  Then in year 9, based on year 8 exam results and in-class work, about 20-30 people from the higher stream will get placed into a "top set" stream, where all the material covered is still the same as the other classes, except much more in-depth and at a higher level.  In year 10, the "top set" will cover a very little bit of Methods 1/2.  Then, most of the top set will be encouraged to do Methods 3/4 in year 11, where the other 75% of Methods 1/2 and Methods 3/4 will be taught simultaneously. 

At any stage pre-VCE, it's also possible to be moved around, accomodating for late-developers as well as "smart" people who simply don't work hard enough to stay in a top set.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2009, 02:18:05 pm »
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At my school, in year 8 there are two "streams" for maths, seperating the upper half of the year level and the lower half, each comprising about 100 people.  Then in year 9, based on year 8 exam results and in-class work, about 20-30 people from the higher stream will get placed into a "top set" stream, where all the material covered is still the same as the other classes, except much more in-depth and at a higher level.  In year 10, the "top set" will cover a very little bit of Methods 1/2.  Then, most of the top set will be encouraged to do Methods 3/4 in year 11, where the other 75% of Methods 1/2 and Methods 3/4 will be taught simultaneously. 

At any stage pre-VCE, it's also possible to be moved around, accomodating for late-developers as well as "smart" people who simply don't work hard enough to stay in a top set.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 02:28:38 pm »
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they tried to convince me u couldn't accelerate in english, only in literature, i proved em wrong  
So are you implying that the school has no power to stop a student from selecting a subject for acceleration? Also, does this mean that, with respect to the rules of the VCAA, a student is able to do this without having to obey the  restriction imposed by the school?

Edit: technically this is not a double post as i am quoting two different users. So "ha!" to all those mods who think they can ban me as consequence of doing this  :P
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2009, 03:17:03 pm »
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We never had accelerated methods at my school. Instead, we took an exam in year 8 and if we got high enough, we could skip year 9 maths and do year 10 maths in year 9. Then in year 10, we would do GM so in year 11 we could do further. We don't offer GMA at all and I'm not even doing further this year so the program was pretty pointless for me, at least.

Our school also had the option of doing literature in year 10, but of course they got rid of both the accelerated literature and plain literature during my year so I'm stuck with normal english.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2009, 03:20:30 pm »
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At my school, in year 8 there are two "streams" for maths, seperating the upper half of the year level and the lower half, each comprising about 100 people.  Then in year 9, based on year 8 exam results and in-class work, about 20-30 people from the higher stream will get placed into a "top set" stream, where all the material covered is still the same as the other classes, except much more in-depth and at a higher level.  In year 10, the "top set" will cover a very little bit of Methods 1/2.  Then, most of the top set will be encouraged to do Methods 3/4 in year 11, where the other 75% of Methods 1/2 and Methods 3/4 will be taught simultaneously. 

At any stage pre-VCE, it's also possible to be moved around, accomodating for late-developers as well as "smart" people who simply don't work hard enough to stay in a top set.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2009, 03:40:18 pm »
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they tried to convince me u couldn't accelerate in english, only in literature, i proved em wrong 
So are you implying that the school has no power to stop a student from selecting a subject for acceleration? Also, does this mean that, with respect to the rules of the VCAA, a student is able to do this without having to obey the  restriction imposed by the school?

The school does not have control over it, however, your school can choose to not offer methods 3/4 at year 11 level. If that is the case, good luck trying to enrol into the study, you'll either have to convince your teachers/coordinators, or find another provider.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2009, 03:44:28 pm »
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they tried to convince me u couldn't accelerate in english, only in literature, i proved em wrong 
So are you implying that the school has no power to stop a student from selecting a subject for acceleration? Also, does this mean that, with respect to the rules of the VCAA, a student is able to do this without having to obey the  restriction imposed by the school?

The school does not have control over it, however, your school can choose to not offer methods 3/4 at year 11 level. If that is the case, good luck trying to enrol into the study, you'll either have to convince your teachers/coordinators, or find another provider.
hmmm...might as well write a convincing letter

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2009, 03:58:50 pm »
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they tried to convince me u couldn't accelerate in english, only in literature, i proved em wrong 
So are you implying that the school has no power to stop a student from selecting a subject for acceleration? Also, does this mean that, with respect to the rules of the VCAA, a student is able to do this without having to obey the  restriction imposed by the school?

The school does not have control over it, however, your school can choose to not offer methods 3/4 at year 11 level. If that is the case, good luck trying to enrol into the study, you'll either have to convince your teachers/coordinators, or find another provider.

How do SACs work if that is the case?
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2009, 04:03:29 pm »
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they tried to convince me u couldn't accelerate in english, only in literature, i proved em wrong 
So are you implying that the school has no power to stop a student from selecting a subject for acceleration? Also, does this mean that, with respect to the rules of the VCAA, a student is able to do this without having to obey the  restriction imposed by the school?

The school does not have control over it, however, your school can choose to not offer methods 3/4 at year 11 level. If that is the case, good luck trying to enrol into the study, you'll either have to convince your teachers/coordinators, or find another provider.

How do SACs work if that is the case?
Find another provider = move schools

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2009, 04:07:27 pm »
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oh  :-[
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2009, 04:10:39 pm »
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My school had a strange system.

I did GMA (essentially Year 11 SM) in Year 10, and then Methods 1/2 in Year 11.

Others did GMA in Year 11 with Methods 1/2 in Year 11.

All the 3/4 subjects were done in Year 12 only.

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2009, 05:22:41 pm »
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At my school, there is streaming (Mainstream, Extension and Acceleration) since Year 7, based on a test in Year 6. Obviously people are moved around a lot throughout the years until you get to Year 10. In Year 10, the Acceleration class does Methods 1 + 2, ready for Units 3 + 4 in Year 12.

The Acceleration class basically skips Year 7 maths and is thus always 1 year ahead so that they are capable of completing Methods in Year 11.
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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2009, 05:57:08 pm »
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At my school, there is streaming (Mainstream, Extension and Acceleration) since Year 7, based on a test in Year 6. Obviously people are moved around a lot throughout the years until you get to Year 10. In Year 10, the Acceleration class does Methods 1 + 2, ready for Units 3 + 4 in Year 12.

The Acceleration class basically skips Year 7 maths and is thus always 1 year ahead so that they are capable of completing Methods in Year 11.
you don't really need year 10 maths do methods 1/2 in year 10. You just need the foundations of year 9 maths and from there, the majority of the course is completely new stuff like logs, calculus etc. so i don't see the point of stopping people from, doing it accelerated.

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Re: Banning of acceleration of methods
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2009, 09:16:08 pm »
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my school used to allow GMA in year 10 and they banned it now
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